Should children be taught that pron is not real?

[escapeUK]

BBC News - Should children be taught that porn is not real?

I say yes. pron is far better than the real thing. No STD. No buying rohypnol to get her in the mood. No nagging about your performance or doing the washing up. No headaches. No chance of children. No taking all your money in the divorce.

Casual sex with a condom is all those things.

[BrilloPad]

Casual sex with a condom is all those things.

Make sure you destroy the condom afterwards - women have been known to fish them out of the bin.

You can catch nasty diseases from sheep.

How do you know?

[northernladuk]

I don't believe any scientific studies have found that to be the case in the long-term. Its severe negative psychological effects are well documented - regardless of the way it is being used.

Compard to the number of people that watch porn and have no psychological effects...

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

Compard to the number of people that watch porn and have no psychological effects...

I guess it depends on your definition of psychological.

Some interesting references on wikipedia:

Social effects of pornography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I know wikipedia isn't a "golden source" but it does point to some very interesting studies.

These graphs particularly:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Zillmann_Fig_5.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Zillmann_Fig_10.png

Interesting quote:

The values expressed in pornography clash so obviously with the family concept, and they potentially undermine the traditional values that favor marriage, family, and children... Pornographic scripts dwell on sexual engagements of parties who have just met, who are in no way attached or committed to each other, and who will part shortly, never to meet again... Sexual gratification in pornography is not a function of emotional attachment, of kindness, of caring, and especially not of continuance of the relationship, as such continuance would translate into responsibilities, curtailments, and costs...

[Mich the Tester]

I guess it depends on your definition of psychological.

Some interesting references on wikipedia:

Social effects of pornography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I know wikipedia isn't a "golden source" but it does point to some very interesting studies.

These graphs particularly:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Zillmann_Fig_5.png
File:Zillmann Fig 10.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Interesting quote:

Umm, maybe I'm missing something but the first graph suggests those with more exposure to pron are less often incarcerated for rape.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

Umm, maybe I'm missing something but the first graph suggests those with more exposure to pron are less often incarcerated for rape.

One study does suggest that indeed. Other studies find that the rate of rape increases with legalisation of pron in the united states.

[northernladuk]

I guess it depends on your definition of psychological.

Some interesting references on wikipedia:

Social effects of pornography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I know wikipedia isn't a "golden source" but it does point to some very interesting studies.

These graphs particularly:

File:Zillmann Fig 5.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
File:Zillmann Fig 10.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Interesting quote:

That research is seriously flawed. The generic term pornography for a start makes it useless... and a more interesting paragraph you may have missed...

In a recent review of this literature Ferguson and Hartley (2009) argue that the results from controlled studies are inconsistent.[12] They state that the authors of some studies tended to highlight positive findings while deemphasizing null findings, demonstrating confirmation bias in the published literature. Ferguson and Hartley concluded that controlled studies, on balance, were not able to support links between pornography and sexual violence.

You are just picking something to make a point rather than reading and understanding it first.

[KentPhilip]

Pron is the starting point for things a lot worse than unprotected sex. Paedophiles and rapists didn't start off as they ended up. Pron may start with Page 3 and soft pron, before you know it they end up in the hardcore stuff and then the wierd, disgusting stuff.

There have been paedophiles and rapists since long before any porn was around.

I don't believe any scientific studies have found that to be the case in the long-term. Its severe negative psychological effects are well documented

really?
Care to provide any links (not ones from religious websites)?

[doodab]

I didn't state anywhere that all people who started off on Page 3 ended up as Paedophiles/rapists rather that for those people who ended up that way it was the starting point.

The starting point for most of them is being abused as children themselves.

[escapeUK]

The starting point for most of them is being abused as children themselves.

Sounds more like a convenient excuse to me.