More evidence of global warming.

[darmstadt]

And these critters:

[pjclarke]

burning food to attempt to prevent a non-existant problem - thats the greens for you

Actually no, environmentalists have been pointing out the absurdity of growing food for cars since at least 2004

George Monbiot – Feeding Cars, Not People

It's governments, Big Agriculture and bizarrely, energy companies who like biofuels. George Bush, hardly a renowned 'Green', was a huge fan - spending $12bn of tax dollars on R&D, including a direct $1bn subsidy for ethanol from corn.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/05/news...anol/index.htm

[pjclarke]

An ‘inconvenient result’ – July 2012 not a record breaker according to data from the new NOAA/NCDC U.S. Climate Reference Network | Watts Up With That?

You gotta love Anthony Watts. In his desparation to deny a new US record he produces a non-record figure from a 'reference' set of stations. A set that has only been reporting since 2008, when the previous record was in the 1930s.

And for deniers, this ex-TV weatherman without a degree is the go-to guy on US temperatures...

This is comparing the absolute temperatures of two different networks. You don’t know whether, for example, the USCRN network has relatively more high altitude stations. And while you say that USCRN has “near perfect geospatial distribution” (measured?), the validity of the comparison will depend on whether the old network is comparably distributed.

That’s why climate scientists generally prefer to deal with anomalies. Otherwise you can’t compare across networks.

Comment from Nick Stokes PhD of the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation.

[EternalOptimist]

meanwhile global temperatures have flatlined for 16 years.

according to the IPCC and the models, it should be getting warmer

[EternalOptimist]

Actually no, environmentalists have been pointing out the absurdity of growing food for cars since at least 2004

ooh, what a fibber

wwf - groundbreaking biofuels

never expect an environmntalist to admit their mistake

Maybe pj means some greens are against biofuels NOW. after they have seen the damage
and after they so gleefully had their crackpot idea implemented in the first place



green eejits

[BlasterBates]

meanwhile global temperatures have flatlined for 16 years.

according to the IPCC and the models, it should be getting warmer

Absolutely.....

As Professory Judith Curry says, the climate models are fundamentally flawed.

[pjclarke]

No, Eo, those are second generation biofuels, made from crop waste or plants which are not in the human or animal food chain. No problem with those. Please check your facts before posting, thanks.

[EternalOptimist]

No, Eo, those are second generation biofuels, made from crop waste or plants which are not in the human or animal food chain. No problem with those. Please check your facts before posting, thanks.

thats right
the greens have always been against biofuels
the greens have always been for DDT
the greens have alwayd been against mercury in lights

abd Eastasia has ALWAYS been at war with eurasia

[doodab]

My faith in global warming has been shaken by the coldness of my feet.

Brrrrr.

[SimonMac]

If the earth is warming up why am I so fricking cold!