Starting work without signed contract

[BolshieBastard]

I don't get contracts reviewed.

Never ceases to amze me. Unless you are working to IR35 or umbrella or dont give a toss about your T&C's, HTF can you operate as a business?

WRT starting work without a contract, I just wonder how many people dont bother getting confirmation when they book hotel. Or just drive without making sure they have insurance.

Absolute crazy.

[speling bee]

Never ceases to amze me. Unless you are working to IR35 or umbrella or dont give a toss about your T&C's, HTF can you operate as a business?

WRT starting work without a contract, I just wonder how many people dont bother getting confirmation when they book hotel. Or just drive without making sure they have insurance.

Absolute crazy.

I am operating as a business and am not a disguised employee pretending to be a business. I usually have multiple simultaneous contracts. I work at home or at client site according to how I view the business need. I control my own work. Quibbling over the terminology as to when the client may reasonably refuse a sub is of little interest to me.

[d000hg]

Never ceases to amze me. Unless you are working to IR35 or umbrella or dont give a toss about your T&C's, HTF can you operate as a business?

WRT starting work without a contract, I just wonder how many people dont bother getting confirmation when they book hotel. Or just drive without making sure they have insurance.

Absolute crazy.

You really should be able to tell if your contract is IR35-friendly. If you don't, how can you possibly make sure the actual working conditions are?

[EternalOptimist]

Once again I'm the black sheep.

I often start contracts without them being signed, because the agents seem not to care about anything other than the client signing.

Agents , in my view, do sod all and what they do do (other than the initial pitch and placement) is slow and error riddled.

baaaa. me too

[NotAllThere]

Shouldn't that be error-ridden.

[speling bee]

Shouldn't that be error-ridden.

I liked the error / bullet metaphor.

[EternalOptimist]

Never ceases to amze me. Unless you are working to IR35 or umbrella or dont give a toss about your T&C's, HTF can you operate as a business?

WRT starting work without a contract, I just wonder how many people dont bother getting confirmation when they book hotel. Or just drive without making sure they have insurance.

Absolute crazy.

I have stayed in many hotels. Quite often I pay when I leave. They have abolutely no guarantee that they will eventually get paid, they have no guarantee that I will not steal the telly or leave a big mess in the fridge.
I have no idea if the hotel is under a fight path or next to a noisy disco or if the roof will leak.

I make a quick judgement. so do they. I dont ask to see the certificate of indemnity, or their articles.

Sometimes it goes horribly wrong, mostly it goes ok. It's a risk.

To call taking a risk absolutely crazy is, well...absolutely crazy.


you are a fool BB

[SueEllen]

I am operating as a business and am not a disguised employee pretending to be a business. I usually have multiple simultaneous contracts. I work at home or at client site according to how I view the business need. I control my own work. Quibbling over the terminology as to when the client may reasonably refuse a sub is of little interest to me.

It's not the IR35 clauses which are normally in contacts that bother me its the others like payment. There are some people on here who have ageed to 45 day payment terms simply because they haven't read or seen the contract.

This is why I always must see a contract before starting especially if the contract is through an agency.

[Scoobos]

How do you get them reviewed for IR35? ... Oh wait.... never mind.

I even added NLUK protection to that post

Seriously though, I said I don't get my contracts SIGNED before I start, not that I don't get one at all.