Which is worse - Islam or Wonga?

[BA to the Stars]

The self detonating one

HTH

[Robinho]

You certainly don't have a problem with TV adverts by loan sharks featuring cute puppets. Nor associating thier taudry buisiness with Sport and particularly a club where many of the fans are less wealthy than average. It's exploitation and it's shabby IMHO. Let them exist in the small ads but lets not pretend there is anything wholesome about it.

They are simply providing a service to people. If people thought it was a bad idea they would not do it in the first place or stop doing it after trying it. The fact is that people are doing it so it is obviously beneficial to them.

In the meantime education and ideally good parenting should help to highlight the disadvantages of taking out these loans and promote the benefits of financial prudence.

[ZARDOZ]

They are simply providing a service to people. If people thought it was a bad idea they would not do it in the first place or stop doing it after trying it. The fact is that people are doing it so it is obviously beneficial to them.

Your basic argument is; that if there is demand for some goods or service, then the supplying of the aforementioned must be a good thing. As long as there is a demand it makes the service OK in your book. BUT it's an irrelevant point when we are discussing ethics.

Without morality there isn't anything you can't defended on your basis

An example could be:
Supplying Saddam Hussain with chemical and other weapons. - Fine, it was mutually beneficial, what he uses them for is his business, who are we to patronise him (as Dodgy might argue).

[doodab]

They are simply providing a service to people. If people thought it was a bad idea they would not do it in the first place or stop doing it after trying it. The fact is that people are doing it so it is obviously beneficial to them.

In the meantime education and ideally good parenting should help to highlight the disadvantages of taking out these loans and promote the benefits of financial prudence.

We had better legalise drugs, all forms of prostitution and contract killing then. People are doing it after all...

[Mich the Tester]

If people thought it was a bad idea they would not do it in the first place or stop doing it after trying it. The fact is that people are doing it so it is obviously beneficial to them.

Well that gets Jimmy Savile off the hook then.

[doodab]

I'm unable to decide if Rob really wants to live in Grand Theft Auto land or whether he's a sockpuppet cunningly contrived to provoke a reaction thus nudging the overall political tone of CUK towards socialism. I think he's actually David Milliband.

[SupremeSpod]

That is old law. All surpassed by the new testament.

Ahhh, blessed is just about anyone who has a vested interest in the status quo...

[doodab]

Ahhh, blessed is just about anyone who has a vested interest in the status quo...

I saw them live once, back when they were at their peak.

[BrilloPad]

Ahhh, blessed is just about anyone who has a vested interest in the status quo...

Blessed are the lurkers - they shall inherit the possessions of the trolls.

Judas 3:16

[speling bee]

So you don't have an argument, you can only insult me? How telling. Reminds me of SAS.

If addiction wasn't ultimately a choice how the hell do people ever give up smoking? Or alcohol?

The suggestion that it is not ultimately a choice means people would have to be forced by others to give up these things. Yet that is not the case.

You are all being rather unfair on robinho. He obviously takes a Hobbesian view of liberty, and while that may appear a little outdated to some, it is historically valid to apply it within the context of this debate.