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    #21
    Originally posted by EternalOptimist View Post
    velly good money where I am, Go-senmon wa, jo mata Halo Jones.
    Translation please?
    Growing old is mandatory
    Growing up is optional

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      #22
      Originally posted by SimonMac View Post
      I would say because the market is saturated with IT Graduates, so their worth has plummeted.
      It's the foreign imports that have made a difference.

      Plus now lots of companies think IT is an everyday commodity that anyone can do like at RBS.
      "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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        #23
        Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
        ... now lots of companies think IT is an everyday commodity that anyone can do like at RBS.
        That's because agencies commoditised it because they don't understand computing, only keyword searches. And HR bought the idea because they don't understand either.

        You want C# SQL Java, we have it.
        You want a good programmer?? We don't make moral judgements.....
        Job motivation: how the powerful steal from the stupid.

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          #24
          Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post

          True dat. Permie salaries haven't moved in well over a decade. I was on £55K as a permie in the late nineties and if anything the pay has fallen, but the cost of living has doubled easily.
          WHS

          You must be me (apart from the electronics)
          Work in the public sector? Read the IR35 FAQ here

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            #25
            Originally posted by Ignis Fatuus View Post
            That's because agencies commoditised it because they don't understand computing, only keyword searches. And HR bought the idea because they don't understand either.
            whs

            But at least agents understand how to make money; I've no idea what skills HR have. I suspect it's a pseudo-profession.
            And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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              #26
              I got into computing by accident. I was aiming to become an actuary or an accountant. Did a degree in maths and had to find a job for my third year (a sandwich course, not sure if you still get those but they rock!).

              Ended up working at Lockheed Martin and was going to do the maths behind visor holograms for fighter pilots. Got there and everything had changed. They said 'can you program' I replied 'no' and they said 'here is a book on C++, learn to program because we need you to fix this software'.

              I did not even know how to run developer studio at that point (I had to be shown as I have never seen Windows 95/NT before). I learned and eventually realised that I could make as much money programming as I could working as an actuary and have an awful lot less work to do too!

              I reluctantly went back to university and could not wait to be done with the course and get back to being a software engineer.

              Of the guys in my year from school only 2 of them were on more money than me before I started contracting and one of them was Shane Williams, the rugby player.
              "He's actually ripped" - Jared Padalecki

              https://youtu.be/l-PUnsCL590?list=PL...dNeCyi9a&t=615

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                #27
                I was in electronics repair and it became obvious that was going the way of the Dodo.
                Replace rather than repair.

                I wanted to move into something I started repairing phones. Then building PC based voice mails.

                I started doing the network and I was off.

                For the first time I was earning above average wage.

                Haven't dipped below since. Interesting work, in comfy office and the chance to travel.
                Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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