Boomed & Doomed - suing the old landlord

[moggy]

Man you are ******* prick. You say I look foolish when you are the idiot crying on here with all your personal tulip that no gives a toss about whe you can't run your life by yourself. You are also stupid enough to post it in general and expect a sensible answer. Now THAT is foolish.

The post you linked indicated I don't give a tulip about tenants legalities, someone esle does it for me? How does that indicate I am robbing someone and pretending to know? The fact I pay someone else to do it shows I don't know.

If you want to post stupid situation you are incapable of thinking your way out of and want lots of cuddles and 'there there's' the sod off to mumsnet.

BTW there is a fine line between robbing people and getting away with what you can. Tenants are right pain in the arse and it is often the landlords that get screwed over by them. If you can claw that back through playing tough then so be it. It's called life.

... and breathe

[Spacecadet]

BTW there is a fine line between robbing people and getting away with what you can. Tenants are right pain in the arse and it is often the landlords that get screwed over by them. If you can claw that back through playing tough then so be it. It's called life.

TBH its probably more often that the tenant is screwed over by the landlord.

And if landlords can't be bothered to deal with "pain in the arse" tenants then they should either use an agent to deal with it or sell up and stop being landlords. Crying about the people you need to pay the rent on the properties you own is a bit ******* rich

[doodab]

BTW there is a fine line between robbing people and getting away with what you can. Tenants are right pain in the arse and it is often the landlords that get screwed over by them. If you can claw that back through playing tough then so be it.

And that is the reason we have a succession of laws designed to protect tenants from arsehole landlords.

[northernladuk]

TBH its probably more often that the tenant is screwed over by the landlord.

And if landlords can't be bothered to deal with "pain in the arse" tenants then they should either use an agent to deal with it or sell up and stop being landlords. Crying about the people you need to pay the rent on the properties you own is a bit ******* rich

I wouldn't know. I use an agent and do it by the book. There are good tenants who you have no problems with and are willing to go the extra mile with and then there are pain in the arse tenants who take the piss so you play their game. The agent keeps it legal and reasonable between us. If you go direct with a landlord then you are on your own. I would hardly call that crying about tenants. It's business.... for me anyway. Oddly enough as much as the OP is having a go at the two landlords that actually took the time to respond, I do feel his pain as I also have had crappy landlords in the past and had to fight tooth and nail with them.

[northernladuk]

And that is the reason we have a succession of laws designed to protect tenants from arsehole landlords.

Indeed but it is a shame they are not as robust the other way around. It is a too way street with good and bad people on both sides.

[Old Hack]

True - but that also means the property is his until the 10th of the following month and the landlord cannot move someone else in until that point...

Again, not true. If the keys have been handed in, and a note issuing the fact hes moved, hes moved. I have had a client do the same, but he kept the place empty until the date to leave came up. This is what this lad should have done. You have an obligation to pay rent, a month at a time. This doesn't mean you can pay a part month.

[Lockhouse]

TBH its probably more often that the tenant is screwed over by the landlord.

Not in my experience.

[northernladuk]

Again, not true. If the keys have been handed in, and a note issuing the fact hes moved, hes moved. I have had a client do the same, but he kept the place empty until the date to leave came up. This is what this lad should have done. You have an obligation to pay rent, a month at a time. This doesn't mean you can pay a part month.

Hmmm, now I don't think this is true. I had a tenant in being paid by the insurance company. 6 months up front. Their house was ready in 4 months and they moved out. I tried to keep the money and get a tenant in but the agency advised this was illegal and I either refund the money or just keep the place empty until the end of the agreement. I was pretty agrieved as it wasn't even their money, giving the insurance mans money back to them isn't technically legal either but the agency wouldn't budge.

Moved or not if he has paid up to the agreement end date there is nothing I could do.

Didn't read the history of that comment but I hope it is a similar situation.

[Basil Fawlty]

Again, not true. If the keys have been handed in, and a note issuing the fact hes moved, hes moved. I have had a client do the same, but he kept the place empty until the date to leave came up. This is what this lad should have done. You have an obligation to pay rent, a month at a time. This doesn't mean you can pay a part month.

Ah right yes I agree with that, but if he's communicated with his landlord properly and provided written confirmation that the landlord can move someone else in early then I still think he may have a point/case. If he's not been clear with the landlord then it's his own stupid fault !

[Old Hack]

Ah right yes I agree with that, but if he's communicated with his landlord properly and provided written confirmation that the landlord can move someone else in early then I still think he may have a point/case. If he's not been clear with the landlord then it's his own stupid fault !

I think someone made a point about a hire/lease car earlier. If you have a contract for a month, its for a month, if on the second week you realise you don't need it, it doesn;t matter if you communicate they can let it out again in the remaining time, they will anyway, and keep your money. The moment you hand your keys over, you are giving responsibility back to the landlord. Then he's free to make the choices he requires.

Me, I'd have done what the chap did with me.