ffs: Guantanamo suicides 'acts of war'

[Mailman]

Oh I see! Their only objective is to kill and it doesn't matter who or what they murder. Surely livestock would be easier to kill than humans in that case.

HAHAHAHAHHAA...ok...maybe the day cows are considered more important than human lives then this tactic might become important

But until then its just easier to kill innocent iraqi civilians than it is to kill heavily armed soldiers who arent afraid to come and give you a few more ventilation holes

Mailman

[Dundeegeorge]

What, we're at war with India as well?

maybe the day cows are considered more important than human lives then this tactic might become important

Stupid ******* religions.

[zathras]

but consider one question only.
Would you like your female children to be raised in an Islamic society or a laissez-faire one like ours.
The absolute bottom line, and having 2 daughters, I can tell you now without qualification, the fewer muslims there are in the world, the happier I am.

No. Simply put, but that is irrelevent to the legality of the war in Iraq and the way that war has driven more disenfranchised Muslims to the extremist cause which is seeking Islamic law in the liberal West.

Maybe if we spent as much time working out why Young Muslims feel disenfranchised and dealt with our immigration system which has put such young people in contact with extremist mullahs we may actually not have a problem.

[Dundeegeorge]

Legal-schmegal

So you are suggesting that if the war had been sanctioned by the UN and was therefore 'legal' (whatever a legal war is!!!) then the 'disenfranchised' muslims in this country would behave differently. Absolute hogwash.
Extremist mullahs? Charge them with treason and throw the key away (which is nicer than the way they'd treat you, given the opportunity).

[zathras]

So you are suggesting that if the war had been sanctioned by the UN and was therefore 'legal' (whatever a legal war is!!!) then the 'disenfranchised' muslims in this country would behave differently. Absolute hogwash.
Extremist mullahs? Charge them with treason and throw the key away (which is nicer than the way they'd treat you, given the opportunity).

You can spend all day with what if's and still not get anywhere. The war in Iraq is of dubious legality. Had it the backing of the international community then at least the extreme mullahs would not have been able to claim that we are attacking Islam for no reason. I can think of no better proof than the Gulf War to liberate Kuwait, which not only had the backing of neighbouring countries but they actually gave us areas to have military forces

As for chucking the extreme mullahs into Gaol. Better not to let them in in the first place but we do have a record in the West of generally allowing people to say what they want - it's called free speech.

[Dundeegeorge]

Hello Zathras Hello Zathras Earth calling Zathras

We are not attacking islam. We are at war with a country which is islamic.
Free speech. Really, how much tiime do you spend in this country?
Go tell it to the BNP.
Go tell it to the protestor outside Parliament.
Go tell it to the chap thrown out of the NL party conference.

[Mailman]

maybe the day cows are considered more important than human lives then this tactic might become important

Stupid ******* religions.

Thought you were going to say "stupid ******* cows" for a second!

Mailman

[Mailman]

Maybe if we spent as much time working out why Young Muslims feel disenfranchised

OR MAYBE if them poor downtrodden young muslims spent as much time educating/bettering/actually understanding their religion instead of trying to blow things up THEY MIGHT actually get somewhere!

Stop playing the blame game, if some 18yo muslim terrorist decides to kill 20 people on a bus then the only person to blame is the 18yo terrorist.

Feck, if we all decided to top others off that annoyed us (or who's governments annoyed us) there wouldnt be anyone left alive in London!

Mailman

[zathras]

We are not attacking islam. We are at war with a country which is islamic.

You know that, I know that.

But have you ever thought what it feels for Muslims.

Afghanistan (which I will grant you does have some legal basis) - Islamic
Iraq - Islamic
Iran next inline and would n't you know - it's Islamic
Russians bombing Chechnya and have we attacked Russia for the way it has treated them - Guess what, Islamic
Israel Bombs a beach in Palastine - Islam again

Keep doing this and more and more Muslims are going to think it is what these have is common is the reason they are being attacked.

But that does not change the fact that the war in Iraq was at best of dubious legality.

[Fungus]

There is also that strange Ummah business, which the Japanese think is the fifth flavour, but that's another story. If Christians had an Ummah, we'd be in deeper doodoo. Which reminds me of a song by Howling Wolf. I'm wandering.