David Cameron suggests cutting housing benefit for under-25s

[DodgyAgent]

Don't go there, I love indonesia and indonesia loves me.

I can go where I please. I am interested that you presume to know what is so good for them.

[Scoobos]

And out of all these cliches your point is?

Its not cliched from my experience, its the real world I think many are detached from, there's no discussing with you DA. Take some time to read the thread here and see how you avoid all questions and have the audacity to use such horrible analogies and so passionately attack those that just simply have a different mindset to you...

To play your earlier game - I can name an extreme right wing person who matches the description above perfectly. Adolf Hitler.

[Robinho]

Adolf Hitler was centrist.

[Scoobos]

And what when these companies are out of exploitation ground?

That's a good question.

[Robinho]

Sounds like you might be beginning to understand it now.

Basically companies will continue to outsource until it isn't costs effective to do so any more, because pay levels have reached parity with the 1st world.

By blocking this process they will be forever impoverished.

[DodgyAgent]

Its not cliched from my experience, its the real world I think many are detached from, there's no discussing with you DA. Take some time to read the thread here and see how you avoid all questions and have the audacity to use such horrible analogies and so passionately attack those that just simply have a different mindset to you...

To play your earlier game - I can name an extreme right wing person who matches the description above perfectly. Adolf Hitler.

I am merely arguing that for 25 year olds it is better for them to be made to work than it is to pay them to stay at home. The harsh answer is to deprive them of benefits. You have tried every trick in the book to shift the debate. We are now in Indonesia identifying with the poor!. I can only presume that you are resorting to this tactic in order to create the illusion that you actually care about poor people.

My analogies about Poles taking jobs as Bus drivers in large UK cities where local workers are paid more to do nothing seems entirely reasonable.

[TimberWolf]

This thread is quite long. Has anyone mentioned Adolf Hitler yet?

[DodgyAgent]

This thread is quite long. Has anyone mentioned Adolf Hitler yet?

I have Stalin and Pol Pot up my sleeve

[TimberWolf]

Who knows why the "west" ended up richer than, shall we say, "hot places".

As an aside it seems to me we in the UK got motoring after the peasant revolt circa 1400, Magna Carta, and the adoption of more socialist tenancies. And again after the Cromwell fellow. Perhaps people become more effective and industrious workers when they have achievable goals that benefit themselves rather than the rich and a little justness and equality exists.

[Robinho]

The were not socailist policies. They were policies to minimise the power of the state and protect the rights of individuals. See US constitution for a more refined example.

That is the key to good forture and what has gone wrong in many of the hot countries.