Fast lane hoggers

[BolshieBastard]

Wrong.

When 19 I was at traffic lights on a dual carriageway in my recently bought Porsche.

While stopped at traffic lights a police van pulled alongside and while I waited for the lights the passenger in the Police van looked at my car and mouthed "Very nce!". I said "Thank you" and as the lights changed to green drove smoothly away. Although the Police van matched my speed (30 mph in that area) he was slightly behind but still in the right hand lane.

The Police indicated to move into the same lane as myself. And this is where I made a mistake. I accelerated slightly to give the van some room. They promptly put on their blues and twos and pulled me over.

What was the charge?

Undertaking.

You got done for disobeying the Highway Code which states if being overtaken, be prepared to slow down.

You clearly failed to do that as the police wanted to 'overtake' and signalled this by the use of their indicator.

If he hadnt of indicated (his intention to pull in front of you) and you hadnt of speeded up to prevent this, you wouldnt have got done.

[SupremeSpod]

Exactly, which I refer to in my post; as there was just the two of you, and no congestion, if you are moving faster in the inside lane, it is undertaking. You have gone from the inside lane, in front of him.

Technically you are bang to rights. However, I would suggest the police were being what a lot of police are, and thats twats.

As far as I can tell, from your own words, you were in the inside lane, and accelerated above the speed limit.

That wasn't the charge. Luckily I was just given a producer.

[Old Hack]

No, you're wrong. You stated if you undertook someone, you'd be done by the police, I have said it all depended, and it was covered in the highway code.

If you cannot see the difference between someone getting fed up and overtaking on the inside (undertaking), and somone passing on the inside due to the flow of the traffic, then that isn't my issue. But, effectively, it's the same, and is practised safely, and legally, all over the UK, at all times of the day.

[Old Hack]

That wasn't the charge. Luckily I was just given a producer.

Sounds like they were just twats wanting to pull you over regardless.

[SupremeSpod]

You got done for disobeying the Highway Code which states if being overtaken, be prepared to slow down.

You clearly failed to do that as the police wanted to 'overtake' and signalled this by the use of their indicator.

If he hadnt of indicated (his intention to pull in front of you) and you hadnt of speeded up to prevent this, you wouldnt have got done.

Yep.

Btw, "have" and "of" are two completely different words and their usage is non interchangeable.

[EternalOptimist]

A few years ago I whizzed round the big sweeping roundabout and stopped at the lights in front of the Albert Dock. There was a police car at the lights and they must have known I was speeding.
So he winds his winder down and indicated that I do the same
'Do you know what the speed limit is here ?'
'er,,,thirrty a think'
'And how fast were YOU going ?'
'er,,,thirrty a think'

I was just waiting for him to ask how many years I had been driving, but the lights changed

Judging by the looks he was giving me, thats the closest I have ever been to spending the night in the nick

[BlasterBates]

No, you're wrong. You stated if you undertook someone, you'd be done by the police, I have said it all depended, and it was covered in the highway code.

If you cannot see the difference between someone getting fed up and overtaking on the inside (undertaking), and somone passing on the inside due to the flow of the traffic, then that isn't my issue. But, effectively, it's the same, and is practised safely, and legally, all over the UK, at all times of the day.

Then expect a fine. That's precisely why they're cracking down because it's become "acceptable". It isn't. The same in Germany undertaking will be prosecuted unless there are two slow moving lines of traffic.

Undertaking is now common place in Germany but it will be prosecuted in the same way, and the same rules apply, i.e. you can undertake in busy traffic. That was confirmed in the TV programme where police officers show real cases, and they always prosecute undertaking.

[Old Hack]

Then expect a fine. That's precisely why they're cracking down because it's become "acceptable". It isn't. The same in Germany undertaking will be prosecuted unless there are two slow moving lines of traffic.

Undertaking is now common place in Germany but it will be prosecuted in the same way, and the same rules apply, i.e. you can undertake in busy traffic. That was confirmed in the TV programme where police officers show real cases, and they always prosecute undertaking.

Look, please read what's being typed. Highway code rule 242. Clearly states its ok. Clearly.

Did you get that? It clearly states it is ok. You're just arguing, to argue, listen to the facts, then present a clear alternative. Don't just keep stating things that are clearly untrue, as it makes you look silly.

Just for you, once again, please read it this time though.

Highway code 242:

242. Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.

[BlasterBates]

Look, please read what's being typed. Highway code rule 242. Clearly states its ok. Clearly.

Did you get that? It clearly states it is ok. You're just arguing, to argue, listen to the facts, then present a clear alternative. Don't just keep stating things that are clearly untrue, as it makes you look silly.

Just for you, once again, please read it this time though.

Highway code 242:

242. Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.

If you are driving at 60 or 70 mph it isn't a congested motorway!

...and on the TV programmes I've seen where they prosecuted undertaking, the Motorway was full.

[Old Hack]

So, it's legal, in congestion, as I have already stated.

If you are driving at 60 or 70 mph it isn't a congested motorway!

...and on the TV programmes I've seen where they prosecuted undertaking, the Motorway was full.

So, subjective opinion again.

The motorway was packed this morning, travelling at around 55-70 mph in parts

I undertook legally.

So, did you understand Rule 242 yet?