When's the Euro footy starting

[d000hg]

Neither.

I don't support England because it does not deserve to win.

I don't support Russian football team because any sport successes by the team will be exploited by the criminal leadership of the country (it probably does not deserve to win in the first place also).

HTH

What about feelings toward neighbouring countries?

[AtW]

What about feelings toward neighbouring countries?

As I said - I'll support teams that deserve to win (show character against odds and beat favourites in process) so long as their success on the field won't be exploited by their non-democratic leadership back home.

HTH

[d000hg]

The teams who deserve to win are (barring extreme circumstances) the ones who win.

[AtW]

The teams who deserve to win are (barring extreme circumstances) the ones who win.

Not at all.

[d000hg]

Indeed they are. That's the point of sport... you have to win by winning, not by convincing people to vote you as the winner.

[AtW]

Indeed they are. That's the point of sport... you have to win by winning, not by convincing people to vote you as the winner.

You dumbo - they might win by the rules but some who do that are either cheats, or some mistake made or simply never deserved it (luck).

Somebody (like ex-con) can win the lottery and have the money - that's by the rules, does not mean they deserve it.

[d000hg]

You dumbo - they might win by the rules but some who do that are either cheats, or some mistake made or simply never deserved it (luck).

That's why the game lasts 90min, so 'luck' can largely cancel out. Only in rare cases does a single incident directly lead a team to win... we can point at Maradonna or the disallowed England-Germany goal in the last world cup... these are not the norm so in the vast majority of games the winning team 'deserves' to have won. Looking like they played well is not how success is measured.

Or in terms you might better understand, it's about how well your code actually runs, not how pretty it is and how many design patterns it uses to impress people

[AtW]

Or in terms you might better understand, it's about how well your code actually runs, not how pretty it is and how many design patterns it uses to impress people

Oh believe me my code isn't pretty and design patterns are best left for knitting

[Alf W]

Nazis vs Portugal is proving to be a dull dive-fest for us neutrals.

[d000hg]

Apart from all those shots.

edit: I only watched the 2nd half.