FA Cup Final

[SimonMac]

That's ridiculous.

There would have been league games playing at the same time if it were at 3.00 PM which isn't good for the fans or revenue, no other reason.

I think he was taking the piss a little

[Basil Fawlty]

My point is that it’s unhealthy not to have closure and this has rumbled on for years and years.

Difficult for the families to get any form of closure when there hasn't ever been any justice for those who were lost.

[Zoiderman]

Difficult for the families to get any form of closure when there hasn't ever been any justice for those who were lost.

We're talking scousers here, are they sure they weren't simply stolen, not lost?

[Doggy Styles]

Difficult for the families to get any form of closure when there hasn't ever been any justice for those who were lost.

By arresting the ticketless hordes? I doubt they'll catch them now.

[BrilloPad]

We're talking scousers here, are they sure they weren't simply stolen, not lost?

Are you accusing me of being a tealeaf?

Oh - you said scousers not scourers.

[oscarose]

Difficult for the families to get any form of closure when there hasn't ever been any justice for those who were lost.

Caging fans into grounds was the root of the problem. Thankfully we have never had a repeat of that horrific event. At the time I attended football matches and witnessed the treatment of fans by the police but also saw many fans pissed up before the game. All a recipe for disaster.

[Doggy Styles]

Caging fans into grounds was the root of the problem. Thankfully we have never had a repeat of that horrific event. At the time I attended football matches and witnessed the treatment of fans by the police but also saw many fans pissed up before the game. All a recipe for disaster.

Me too, sadly.

It was a fairly common tactic to turn up en masse just before kick-off so ticketless fans could get in, because the police would open the gates for safety reasons (how ironic).

Caging was a result of appalling fan behaviour. I seem to recall Ken Bates wanting to electrify the fences!

[TheBigD]

That's ridiculous.

There would have been league games playing at the same time if it were at 3.00 PM which isn't good for the fans or revenue, no other reason.

Usually, the FA cup was the only major game played on the day, so it could kick off at 3pm without having to compete for audiences/TV.

I seem to recall the date of the cup final was brought forward at Capello's insistence to give the England team more chance to rest before they embarrass the nation at Euro 2012.

[oscarose]

Me too, sadly.

It was a fairly common tactic to turn up en masse just before kick-off so ticketless fans could get in, because the police would open the gates for safety reasons (how ironic).

Caging was a result of appalling fan behaviour. I seem to recall Ken Bates wanting to electrify the fences!

Back in those days going to a match was certainly a different experience. The drunks in the kop end at Leeds had no problem relieving themselves on the unfortunate punter in front of them, Nazi salutes to any black player (even on their own team I seem to remember) and then often a brick pelting getting out of the ground from opposition fans ripping up seats. Certainly, an eye-opener for a 15yo.

Ken Bates had a point

[Doggy Styles]

Back in those days going to a match was certainly a different experience. The drunks in the kop end at Leeds had no problem relieving themselves on the unfortunate punter in front of them, Nazi salutes to any black player (even on their own team I seem to remember) and then often a brick pelting getting out of the ground from opposition fans ripping up seats. Certainly, an eye-opener for a 15yo.

Ken Bates had a point

I think that secretly many agreed with him.