Scotland the skint

[gingerjedi]

The strategic argument is the one that is often overlooked in the discussion.

If you take ten twigs, you can break them one by one, but if you hold them in a bunch they can not be broken. Strength in unity.

And it is only through this strength, that the soft-as-sh1te southerners, and the drunken-bum-jocks can hope to contain the power of the mighty scousers

hic

I paid up Plaid Cymru member tried to convince me earlier that scousers were the only people in the UK who spoke proper English.

He also said Shakespeare was a brummy and Guinness was invented by the gogs.

[EternalOptimist]

I saw evidence of this on the news today.

Ladies Day at Aintree. Liverpudlian women, still standing having consumed 3-4 gallons of cheap bubbly, are a force to be reckoned with.

home rule for bootle.

hic

david moyes for king


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[EternalOptimist]

But if anyone asked me seriously.

I would hate it if the union split up. we have too many shared values.
and shared values mean more than race, ethnicity , colour, wealth, class, social standing, accent or anything else
in my opinion

[BrilloPad]

I must buy a copy of the economist. Well done for not being PC - whether they are right or wrong.

Other papers are picking up on it now - Alex Salmond 'manufacturing outrage' over Economist Skintland cover - Telegraph

[wim121]

But if anyone asked me seriously.

I would hate it if the union split up. we have too many shared values.
and shared values mean more than race, ethnicity , colour, wealth, class, social standing, accent or anything else
in my opinion

That may have been true many moons ago, but our empire has dwindled as has our spirit. Now instead of being a vast ocean, which we once ruled, we now have leeches who want more than their fair share.

If they want independence, let them stay in their own governing houses, pay for their own prescriptions, university, extra benefits for schools and welfare.

[minestrone]

I have had the misfortune to meet Salmond a couple of times 'off stage' and I can say he is an angry wee ball of hatred.

Personally I have no great love for England but that is not saying I do not like England, I read a good line somewhere that said 'I would rather live with my wife who I did not love than live next door to my ex wife' and that sums it up for me.

[Platypus]

Wrong. Look at the stats. The only general election result that would have been different is the one in 2010.

Maybe. But with a much reduced majority, Labour might not have pissed away the economy so easily.

[minestrone]

Even if the Scotsman Brown did feck up the economy an Englishman would have done the same thing, New Labour was a British disease.

Scotland has a bit more of a social justice lean to the political spectrum, that comes about from it being a bit more tough living out in the sticks where you have to depend on the community, the riots never came north of the border because there is a different mindset.

Personally I do not have a problem with having a 'fairer society', I just do not want to encourage people to take advantage of that, which they do already, at my expense.

[minestrone]

And yes, free prescriptions for all is an absolute joke of a policy, I get a couple of ventolin inhalers a year which ain't much of a cost but I would be quite happy to pay for seeing as I am very far from the grubber. The SNP will then lecture everyone that child benefit for high income people should be stopped. Seriously, idiocy.

[escapeUK]

Personally I do not have a problem with having a 'fairer society', I just do not want to encourage people to take advantage of that, which they do already, at my expense.

This is one of those expressions that really means nothing as each persons definition of fair is different. Some might think its 'fair' that other people work to pay for them while they have an easy life having lots of babies. Others might think its 'fair' that everyone keeps 80% of their earnings and those that dont want to work are given a very basic lifestyle, and im talking barrack style accommodation and basic food.

I think its fair that everyone gets free prescriptions or no one does. I think its fair that people pay for their own education. To me unfair is where one set of people get different rules applied to them than another set, and this is exactly the Scotland situation.