Cyclists Again

[MarillionFan]

I toot, an A) if you like, and it doesn't really matter, for when a car approaches you on a single track lane, if you are two abreast, it is considered polite to make room for the other road user, not dawdle along in the middle of said single track road. I think I did well waiting a few minutes to give him a toot, and more so not to poke him on the nose for the bollocks I got afterwards...

Well that's the issue. You selected A, a brief faggotty I'm behind you toot, no wonder you got a hand signal, probably thought you were ex-forces.

You should have selected B in this case.

Now you know.

[Zoiderman]

You're aware that most roads are paid for from Council Tax, yes? Of which cyclists will contribute just as much. Since 1940, your vehicle excise tax has gone into general tax pot, rather than maintaining roads. So no, you don't own the road slightly more than a cyclist.

...apart from trunk roads, of course. Or any road whose principal stakeholder is the Highways Authority, in which, of course you'd know, money comes from central taxation, which includes VED and Petrol tax.

[Zoiderman]

Well that's the issue. You selected A, a brief faggotty I'm behind you toot, no wonder you got a hand signal, probably thought you were ex-forces.

You should have selected B in this case.

Now you know.

Well, he soon realised my, and his, mistake, and I will obviously take Option B from now on to clear up the serious misunderstanding that I could be stupid enough to be ex forces.

Thanks for the advice

[lilelvis2000]

...and yes, the £1000 in car tax and £10k in fuel tax I pay a year means I own the road slightly more than the bike rider who pays fook all and still acts like Charlie Big potatoes, despite being protected by little more than a plastic bucket

Wow, granny, what a big assh*** you have.

The better to spout what ever comes out before thinking my dear.

[En force]

The Green Light.

I now walk to work rather than using public transport. I think that it is a good form of exercise as well as saving some pounds (financially). During the 1980s I used to cycle to and from work. Therefore as a previous cyclist, I do understand the harrowing aspects of cycling on the roads. However, when confronted with a red light I would naturally stop. I enjoyed being part of the network of traffic, along with its rules. With spending more time as a pedestrian, I've noticed a new breed of cyclist that ignore the read light and have no regard for even their own safety, it seems, nor for the fright that this might cause to motorists having to avoid a collision. The cyclist of course would be first to complain if they were involved in an accident, and above all, the most vulnerable of all: The Pedestrian. Pedestrians should not have to be further delayed or be made to rush across the road due to a cyclist passing through a red light, and should certainly not be injured by these red light jumping cyclists, including those that have got the green light, but only due to passing a red light beforehand. The argument of it being annoying to have to brake at lights and start off again is rather weak. I've seen the good cyclists that have stopped at red lights, take off again with no trouble at all. Remember, I used to cycle too. These cyclists don't just go earlier, some are racing through. They would not hesitate to have a go at me, even if I were crossing when the 'Green Man' was displayed. It has been said that these are the minority of cyclists that ignore red lights. I wonder how many of those that do stop at red lights, then become the aggressors that they complain about, when they ride along canal paths. When you ring your bell, it is not for pedestrians to move out of your way, but a sign that you are approaching and will be making an attempt to move around us. You also do not adhere to the speed limit. Pedestrian on canal paths have the 'Right of Way' This new breed have a 'self' attitude, contributing to ever increasing selfishness in the world.

[doodab]

The law needs changing

When cyclists ride 2 abreast (or more) causing obstruction to other road users and forcing them into oncoming traffic to pass, those on the outside (unless it's children) should be crushed beneath the wheels of the vehicle trying to get past them (without penalty)

If the cyclists can maintain the same speed as the other road users - 30mph, 40mph 60mph then fair enough, ride abreast.

I always try to get as close as possible when passing these ignorant [£^!$. and have in the past accidentilly forced them into the rider next to them, causing rather satisfying pileups on several (3) occasions. One rider actually cought up with me at traffic lights in Dawlish after one such incident, something he no doubt still regrets to this day.

Cyclists, please have some consideration for other road users.

Like what you do?

It's all well and good demanding people allow you to pass but it does mean that you should return the favour and not complain when they pass you down the middle of the road when you are stationary in traffic. And of course that you should slow down and allow them to pull out when they are turning right instead of expecting them to wait. And of course if you are going to get too close when you pass and cause accidents you really can't grumble when a cyclist gets a bit close and scratches your car.

[En force]

This world

is totally Fugzi

[Diver]

Like what you do?

It's all well and good demanding people allow you to pass but it does mean that you should return the favour and not complain when they pass you down the middle of the road when you are stationary in traffic. And of course that you should slow down and allow them to pull out when they are turning right instead of expecting them to wait. And of course if you are going to get too close when you pass and cause accidents you really can't grumble when a cyclist gets a bit close and scratches your car.

I drive a 4x4, also ride a Harley 1200 and a mountain bike (weather permitting) Nuff Said

[BrilloPad]

This new breed have a 'self' attitude, contributing to ever increasing selfishness in the world.

Agree strongly with your entire post above(not just my snip). But a couple of observations. Firstly cyclists are generally more selfish as people are more selfish. Secondly pedestrians also have a duty of care. Several times people (often on mobiles) just walk in front of my bike. Not always past stationary traffic (I always slow down in case pedestrians dont look).

The worst case a young girl (8?) ran round the front of a bus while I was overtaking. I would have run her down but a motorcyclist going the other way was braking hard (he was about to run her down too) and I saw his reaction. She just missed us both totally oblivious.

[AtW]

I have no problems with cylones as long as they look like her: