Argies Catch 22

[Fishface]

>>the presumption is that Argentina doesn't have the stomach for a war,

It really does not.

They have been suffering 4 or more years of 25%+ inflation, import and currency controls, very little reserve to back up the currency, massive capital flight. A massive public spending on populist agenda.

The falkland/malvinas issue is the only thing which can distract from the impending crash.

All this military stuff is bonkers, the UK has better hardware, tech, recent experience etc etc no doubt - they are not going to oppose in the same manner - an oppresive power crazed military junta tried it - but that is not their path now, as you can see they are seeking support and consensus throughout latin America and in particular Mercosur. And next time they go to the UN they will have support and decent argument - the last effort at the UN was not their best effort.

In my opinion the islanders should seek their independence and join Mercosur so they are legitimised by the community and have the ability to trade with latin america - and be as British as they like.

The current situation is UK and Argentina - wasting everyone's time and effort.

[Moscow Mule]

well, with the obvious glaring errors that if they've knocked off the runway, they can send in their planes, including airborne units aboard a C130/equiv. Come in with some fighters with AG missiles, that they'd very likely have their own missiles too.

The trouble is, even on that forum you mentioned, with 'some of the brightest military minds in the world', many express a belief it could be done.

Then there are the inflatables they have found, who is to say there aren't already argies there monitoring movements?

I don't think you've thought anything outside of the 'it aint going to happen' box to be honest, I genuinely dont

Sheesh...

How long will their 20-30 year old fighters have on station before they have to make the 300 mile return journey? What AG weapons do they have other than 500lbers?

What is your resupply/ reinforcement plan for the SF group? C130 airdrop (remember, they can't land)? Vulnerable to remaining rapier and MANPAD.
Ship? Vulnerable to SSN.

I really know you haven't thought this through.

Sheesh....

[minestrone]

To be honest I am bored sh1tless with this whole "we are here to win the hearts and minds of the community by building a school after we obliterered their village from 30,000 feet" tripe the armed services are punting out these days.

I want to see a good old fashioned beach landing, feck the x-factor, let's go toe to toe with a South American country again. Bring it on I say.

[BrilloPad]

I want to see a good old fashioned beach landing, feck the x-factor, let's go toe to toe with a South American country again. Bring it on I say.

Why not jusat invade Argentina? Plenty of natural resources there we could use.

[minestrone]

Why not jusat invade Argentina? Plenty of natural resources there we could use.

We could get the disaffected London yoof mobilised, bit of rum, sodomy and the lash on the way down would soon sort them out.

[minestrone]

The most impressive thing about the 'conflict' (1000 people dead and the fannies could never admit it was a war) was not the recapture of the place, but the getting the whole invasion force shifted out in a matter of days.

[Troll]

Why not jusat invade Argentina? Plenty of natural resources there we could use.

wot you mean their fit wimmin?



Where do I sign up ?

[Zoiderman]

How long will their 20-30 year old fighters have on station before they have to make the 300 mile return journey? What AG weapons do they have other than 500lbers?

What is your resupply/ reinforcement plan for the SF group? C130 airdrop (remember, they can't land)? Vulnerable to remaining rapier and MANPAD.
Ship? Vulnerable to SSN.

I really know you haven't thought this through.

Sheesh....

What, they can't drop supplies in? Now what is a C130 renowned for? Is it renowned for it's ability for multiple drop options, rough terrain landing ability?

In the FW, their planes retained 30 - 40 mins over the islands in fight configuration. Sure their bombers could pop over, rough the place up and then leave, especially if there's no air cover from the Typhoons, by now ditched or as good as tits on a bull.

Vulnerable to Rapier, yes, but with ground forces there, are you saying these cannot be taken out?

No my friend, tis you who has really not thought it through properly. Proper squaddie mentality

I would also imagine with the false flag scenario, a container ship could conceivably be in the area too...

There are multiple scenarios here. Some islanders believe there are Argie military already on the island.

[shaunbhoy]

What, they can't drop supplies in? Now what is a C130 renowned for? Is it renowned for it's ability for multiple drop options, rough terrain landing ability?

For being a slow-moving workhorse that even a novice with the right armaments could take out quite easily.
And the guys on the islands manning the armaments are anything but novices I would point out.
And with odds of 1200/30-50, the vast majority of these supplies are likely to end up in the hands of the Brit defenders.

Vulnerable to Rapier, yes, but with ground forces there, are you saying these cannot be taken out?

There is a possibility that some might be taken out, but if you are expecting them all to be taken out by 30-50 troops with ever diminishing supplies and ammo, you are stretching the bounds of possibility somewhat.

I would also imagine with the false flag scenario, a container ship could conceivably be in the area too...

So after the commencement of hostilities, you seriously expect the "false flag scenario" to keep working do you?
It is unlikely to work even at the first instigation, never mind after that.
There are no recognised flight paths that go anywhere close to the FI. Any "plane full of special forces" would be illuminated hundreds of miles before getting close to the FI. If it tried to suggest it be allowed to perform an emergency landing for some spurious reason, it would be advised to head back in the direction of the mainland as that would be much closer and safer than landing at what is ostensibly an isolated military airfield.
Failure to do so would have it standing out like a sore thumb both tactically and morally, and if it did not comply it would find itself in the drink very quickly. There would be no plausible argument that could be put forward by the Argies to explain this either, so world opinion would have little or no sympathy.

[AtW]

So using word "Argies" to refer to Argentinians isn't racist?

I think we need to ask Churchill.