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    #71
    Don't get me wrong there are a number of factors that need to be considered in order to make manufacturing viable such as:

    Availability of resources
    Import tax and duties
    Exchange rate
    Wage levels
    Demand for the product

    I've probably missed a few but you get the gist, either we're not competitive enough or we've just lost our way and others have capitalised on it. For crying out loud how many of us try to buy british, we would rather buy goods from china because it's cheaper and of course the money goes into their economy.
    In Scooter we trust

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      #72
      Originally posted by The Spartan View Post
      we would rather buy goods from china because it's cheaper and of course the money goes into their economy.
      It's not cheaper long term.

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        #73
        Originally posted by AtW View Post
        It's not cheaper long term.
        I agree with that
        In Scooter we trust

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          #74
          Originally posted by AtW View Post
          And how do countries like Germany, France and Japan handle this problem?

          Well, it's not a problem really if you can turn a lump of iron into good quality car.
          You're assuming the car industry is in good health in those countries.
          Apart from the premium manufacturers (Merc, BMW) who can export their goods to the emerging economy, it's not.
          There is over capacity in the industry. GM wants to rid itself of Opel/Vauxhall, Mitsubishi is closing its factory in Netherlands,
          Peugeot (which derives 13% of its turnover by exporting kits to Iran!) and Mazda need new partners, Fiat is in a desperate clinch with Chyrsler otherwise it would be in financial trouble (and I think they will be anyway since Chrysler are crap).

          Car sales have been falling in Europe over the past 5 years and will keep falling.

          Unfortunately cretinous politicians apply pressure to keep assembly in their countries even though it only adds 15% of the value.
          Far better to keep the value-added design and engineering, the brain part of making a car in country than the mere metal bashing.
          the UK is very good at this: look at the Formula1 expertise and the cluster of small motor companies clustered in Surrey.
          You want a British car buy a Nissan Qashqai, Jaguar, Land Rover, Range Rover. All these cars were designed and engineered in the Uk, regardless of who owns them.
          Hard Brexit now!
          #prayfornodeal

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            #75
            Originally posted by AtW View Post
            Borrowing money to invest into something that will make money (or save them) is ok, but borrowing to finance current spending or tax cuts should be a no-no.
            So borrowing billions/trillions to finance tax cuts promoting the UK as a corporate tax haven would be good, or bad?
            Originally posted by MaryPoppins
            I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
            Originally posted by vetran
            Urine is quite nourishing

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              #76
              Originally posted by Arturo Bassick View Post
              Not if your manufactured product is made from locally available resources.

              Plan B* What can I manufacture from bone idle chavs and will there be a market for the product?
              Soylent green

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                #77
                Originally posted by d000hg View Post
                So borrowing billions/trillions to finance tax cuts promoting the UK as a corporate tax haven would be good, or bad?
                You don't need to be a tax heaven, just more competitive compared to Ireland next door and Switzerland - particularly CGT should be very attractive as that would attract high wealth individuals to actually pay taxes in this country rather than do it in Isle of Man.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by AtW View Post
                  You don't need to be a tax heaven, just more competitive compared to Ireland next door and Switzerland - particularly CGT should be very attractive as that would attract high wealth individuals to actually pay taxes in this country rather than do it in Isle of Man.
                  No wonder the banks won't fund your overdraft if they see that you spend so much time on here being critical of them
                  Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
                    No wonder the banks won't fund your overdraft if they see that you spend so much time on here being critical of them
                    I love them really for I am myself an ex-banker!

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by AtW View Post
                      You don't need to be a tax heaven, just more competitive compared to Ireland next door and Switzerland
                      So is it OK for the UK to borrow money while cutting taxes to attract businesses? You don't seem to have answered the question.
                      Originally posted by MaryPoppins
                      I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
                      Originally posted by vetran
                      Urine is quite nourishing

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