A great day for England

[SimonMac]

This IS a valid point, and there are an awful lot of British citizens spread around the EU.

[Daily Mail Mode]Inversely there will be a chance that a lot more British jobs will be available to British citizens[/Daily Mail Mode]

[Mich the Tester]

[Daily Mail Mode]Inversely there will be a chance that a lot more British jobs will be available to British citizens[/Daily Mail Mode]

Yep, that's 'dailymailonomics' alright. All full of 'private sector enterprise' and 'let the market take care of it' and 'stop subsidizing this and that' until it comes to the labour market, and then they suddenly turn into little statists that want governments to control the availablity of labour, thereby limiting the market for those of us who do actually have the skills to compete for work in lots of different countries.

[Bunk]

Are you working through your UK ltd company in DE? You do realize that if the centre of control moves to Germany you'll need to pay German corporation tax, trade tax, employers social insurances etc don't you? They also tend to suspect people doing this of operating a "split income" scheme i.e. tax fraud that leaves you liable to criminal prosecution. I would investigate freiberufler/slebstandig status pronto if I were you.

And I believe after 6 months of working there, even if you're working for a UK company, you need to start paying personal income tax there too. Oh dear Scooter, I hope you're not going to have to do a runner back to this country you despise so much.

[scooterscot]

This IS a valid point, and there are an awful lot of British citizens spread around the EU.

If you look on the expat sites around the EU it's all UK nationals seem to talk about. Some with families worried that their homeland is going to drop them in it. Do we become citizens of the state we're in? etc etc.. Even here in Munich I've met with other UK folks concerned they'll have to get working visas or get sent packing.

There was a good reason an EU vote was not given and homelanders just don't get it.

[scooterscot]

Are you working through your UK ltd company in DE? You do realize that if the centre of control moves to Germany you'll need to pay German corporation tax, trade tax, employers social insurances etc don't you? They also tend to suspect people doing this of operating a "split income" scheme i.e. tax fraud that leaves you liable to criminal prosecution. I would investigate freiberufler/slebstandig status pronto if I were you.

Incorrect. I'm also a freelancer here operating a profit/loss account and that's it. Even have a letter from the German tax woman approving the whole thing. I got a confused look when asking about setting up a GmbH (DE Ltd) 'what the hell for?! You're a one man outfit'

[Mich the Tester]

homelanders just don't get it.

That applies to 'homelanders' all over Europe. While they're often employed by foreign firms run by people from all over the EU, they rant about 'too many foreigners' and shout 'close the borders!'

I think the only answer will be to get dual nationality. Although some governments are supposedly banning that (like NL) the bans can only be applied if they find out you still have British nationality. Here in NL, if you want Dutch nationality, you have to hand in your British passport to the Dutch authorities, who then send it to the British Consulate (as it's property of HM Government), who then send it back to you with a request to 'take more care of it in future' and an invoice for postage and packing. You then keep your mouth shut about it.

[scooterscot]

Here in NL, if you want Dutch nationality, you have to hand in your British passport to the Dutch authorities, who then send it to the British Consulate (as it's property of HM Government), who then send it back to you with a request to 'take more care of it in future' and an invoice for postage and packing. You then keep your mouth shut about it.

Remember meeting a Dutch guy who had trouble returning home after living in the US for 10 years, the buggers would not let him buy a house despite being a national.

[doodab]

Incorrect. I'm also a freelancer here operating a profit/loss account and that's it. Even have a letter from the German tax woman approving the whole thing. I got a confused look when asking about setting up a GmbH (DE Ltd) 'what the hell for?! You're a one man outfit'

OK, so how exactly are you generating corporation tax for the UK?

[Mich the Tester]

Remember meeting a Dutch guy who had trouble returning home after living in the US for 10 years, the buggers would not let him buy a house despite being a national.

The Netherlands' greatest weaknesses are jobsworth civil servants, puny minded voters and a religious belief that banning something stops it happening.

It's quite brilliant to see how Dutch businesses find ways around the abject stupidity of the country's regulatory systems.

[doodab]

The Netherlands' greatest weaknesses are jobsworth civil servants, puny minded voters and a religious belief that banning something stops it happening.

It sounds a lot like every country everywhere.