Wind 1 Turbine 0

[hyperD]

World average - Deaths per TWh

Coal – 161
Wind - 0.15

On average, 6 human beings a day die digging coal.

Chortle. Snigger.

Well Phil, let’s just ignore the major detail that only conventional fossil fuelled, peak power hydro and load following nuclear power stations enabled you yesterday, in this decidedly inclement windy weather, to provide the necessary stable electrical load to operate your computer to give you the freedom to write the above invective.

Let’s ignore also the fact that your devotedly pro-global warming, reflexed, strawmaned, snarky statement only displays the circumstance that there are vastly more conventional fossil fuelled power stations in operation compared with the token sample of windmills.

But the fact that you laugh at and insult the sanctity of the human sacrifice that has endeavoured to give us cheap energy in order to live in the comfort, health and security in which we cherish, shows to everyone here, once again, that you are simply another condescending individual conforming to the stereotype of a predictably mendacious, embittered, zealous .

[Scrag Meister]

'anal bum tickler'

"Top Secret" now that was a funny movie.

[TestMangler]

Did I mis-hear, or did they report measured wind speed of 165mph?!

Twas in the Cairngorms, so about 4000 ft above sea level, but you're right, it's a lot.

Apparently only 8 mph lower than the highest recorded.

[DodgyAgent]

Don't jest this town is not big enough for two pricks.

FTFY

[DimPrawn]

Can renewables work beyond a token gesture/global warming gimmick?

If money was (almost) no object, with wave energy, wind energy, solar, biomass, geothermal and hydro could we switch off every fossil and nuclear power station in Britain. Could it work from a practical point of view?

I'm actually interested to know.

[d000hg]

Can renewables work beyond a token gesture/global warming gimmick?

If money was (almost) no object, with wave energy, wind energy, solar, biomass, geothermal and hydro could we switch off every fossil and nuclear power station in Britain. Could it work from a practical point of view?

I'm actually interested to know.

We had this discussion in the 32000 turbines thread. Or I tried to, but BB and pj hijacked it and started throwing graphs around.

[EternalOptimist]

Can renewables work beyond a token gesture/global warming gimmick?

If money was (almost) no object, with wave energy, wind energy, solar, biomass, geothermal and hydro could we switch off every fossil and nuclear power station in Britain. Could it work from a practical point of view?

I'm actually interested to know.

this is the US a few years ago.

[doodab]

Can renewables work beyond a token gesture/global warming gimmick?

If money was (almost) no object, with wave energy, wind energy, solar, biomass, geothermal and hydro could we switch off every fossil and nuclear power station in Britain. Could it work from a practical point of view?

I'm actually interested to know.

Take a look at "Sustainable energy without the hot air" and you can work it out in a spreadsheet.

Ch. 18 does it for you. Short answer is not without greatly reducing current consumption. Electricity maybe but not all energy use.

[EternalOptimist]

I have never been a politicised person. I only vote now and then. The strongest I ever felt on an issue was probably defence and maybe fox hunting, which I thought was a bit naff.

I never thought about Greenpeace or the WWF or global warming much, or the greens or the environment. I was quite happy to let the missus sort the different bins out.

But after listening to you for the last year, and others like you, I have to say that I am 100% against everything you stand for. I dont want to be ruled by non accountable zealot NGO's and I dont want your brand of petty back biting data fudging non falsifiable science either

Maybe one day it will dawn on you that your shrill tub thumping can actually alienate otherwise moderate minds

[ThomasSoerensen]

A lot of Danish homes have a gas furnace that burns natural gas from the North see.

Unless you consider that renevable - I do not believe that these homes got their heating from renewable energy sources.