Faster than the speed of light - so what?

[suityou01]

Ok, so after a slight diversion off topic what I understand is that the speed of light used to be the known limit, however, with this neutrino break through it opens up the theory to the possibility that time travel backwards is possible at the atomic level and that also if neutrino's could be harnessed then satellite and possibly other tech could be made redundant by the reasoning that neutrino get there faster and thus in the world of data communication, faster is better.

Any other applications or changing of theories if FTL speed is indisputably proved possible?

It certainly would have implications for not just time travel but space travel as well. Teleporting if you will. Also it looks like parallel universes do exist.

[russell]

Ok, so after a slight diversion off topic what I understand is that the speed of light used to be the known limit, however, with this neutrino break through it opens up the theory to the possibility that time travel backwards is possible at the atomic level and that also if neutrino's could be harnessed then satellite and possibly other tech could be made redundant by the reasoning that neutrino get there faster and thus in the world of data communication, faster is better.

Any other applications or changing of theories if FTL speed is indisputably proved possible?

Right I'm patenting neutrino fiber internet. I AM GOING TO BE RICH!!!

[d000hg]

Why not use scientifc notation y = x + z*1.0-260 <-- should be power of -260

Because I wanted to make it easy to follow, not show off I knew how to write in scientific notation.

[d000hg]

It certainly would have implications for not just time travel but space travel as well.

FTL ==> time travel is not a given. It depends HOW the particles are travelling... are they actually 'travelling' faster than c, or are they taking a different 'route'?

Also if this is an intrinsic property of neutrinos, then it might not help us much, unless you can turn yourself into a neutrino

The thing is, the rules as we know them do seem to hold well, and match well what we see far away... so it would seem any implications are somewhat subtle?

[suityou01]

FTL ==> time travel is not a given. It depends HOW the particles are travelling... are they actually 'travelling' faster than c, or are they taking a different 'route'?

Also if this is an intrinsic property of neutrinos, then it might not help us much, unless you can turn yourself into a neutrino

The thing is, the rules as we know them do seem to hold well, and match well what we see far away... so it would seem any implications are somewhat subtle?

It was the different route bit that made me suggest there were implications for time travel and space travel. Think of space time as a sheet of paper. Draw two points on it and draw a straight line between these two points. This is the shortest distance between these two points, and given the speed of light in a vacuum we can calculate the time it would take for light to travel from point a to point b.

If however you folded the piece of paper so the points touched, then the shortest route changes. No one said the piece of paper had to be flat. It could well be that the neutrino did not break the light barrier, but just took a different route, ie the paper folded. Harness this and massive space travel is a possibility in our lifetime.

[Spacecadet]

It was the different route bit that made me suggest there were implications for time travel and space travel. Think of space time as a sheet of paper. Draw two points on it and draw a straight line between these two points. This is the shortest distance between these two points, and given the speed of light in a vacuum we can calculate the time it would take for light to travel from point a to point b.

If however you folded the piece of paper so the points touched, then the shortest route changes. No one said the piece of paper had to be flat. It could well be that the neutrino did not break the light barrier, but just took a different route, ie the paper folded. Harness this and massive space travel is a possibility in our lifetime.

That'll be why, it went through the earth and not round it!

[suityou01]

That'll be why, it went through the earth and not round it!

[GreenLabel]

If however you folded the piece of paper so the points touched, then the shortest route changes. No one said the piece of paper had to be flat. It could well be that the neutrino did not break the light barrier, but just took a different route, ie the paper folded. Harness this and massive space travel is a possibility in our lifetime.

You been watching Event Horizon again?

[original PM]

It was the different route bit that made me suggest there were implications for time travel and space travel. Think of space time as a sheet of paper. Draw two points on it and draw a straight line between these two points. This is the shortest distance between these two points, and given the speed of light in a vacuum we can calculate the time it would take for light to travel from point a to point b.

If however you folded the piece of paper so the points touched, then the shortest route changes. No one said the piece of paper had to be flat. It could well be that the neutrino did not break the light barrier, but just took a different route, ie the paper folded. Harness this and massive space travel is a possibility in our lifetime.

What you propose is an Einstein-Rosen Bridge - or a wormhole in laymans terms

Also if you look at the quantum world particle pairs (these pairs are always made of matter and antimatter) are appearing and dissapearing all the time in a vacuum giving the potential to tap into the zero point energy.

Thing is that action of appearing moving apart, then moving back together and dissapearing due to annihilating each other looks the same whether you run time forward or backwards.....

Also this is the reason why balckholes radiate energy - the above particle antiparticle event takes place on the even horizon of a blackhole and thus one of the particles is sucked into the black hole and the other is free to radiate away --- but surely you will cry this is something for nothing it seems that energy or matter is being created - which is wrong.

Anyone care to explain??

[TheFaQQer]

Right I'm patenting neutrino fiber internet. I AM GOING TO BE RICH!!!

Too late - I did it tomorrow.