Oh Dear: Spot the difference (it's 3mm)

[Mordac]

What about the tube trains which don't have electronic signs? Surely they should all be withdrawn?

[BoredBloke]

"The blind will not be affected as they cannot see the signs"

Only 4% of people who are classed as blind have no vision (my son being one of the 4%). Many have light perception and many have sight which is just very poor. So often the blind do have some limited vision. The letter size for them is crucial. So yes, the blind are effected by the signs.

"The partially sighted are accommodated by the tannoy announcements"

No they are not. Often these announcements happen too close to the train stopping to be of any use to them and are often impossible to understand. I go back to my earlier point and put it to you. Could you travel along an unfamiliar stretch of track during a busy period (with all the chatter/noise etc) and rely solely on the announcements? Or do you back up what you think you heard over the tannoy with the signs both on the train and on the platform. Often people who have sight problems also have other disabilities. My son has reduced hearing in one ear and stood a very good changce of becomming deaf as well as blind. There are many blind and visually impaired people who also have hearing problems. The tannoy alone would not be of use to them.


"28 trains withdrawn as disability groups complain that letters on signs are too small"

and to remind you, SWT have had 8 years to rectify this problem. Because they don't want to spend the cash (that other train companies have) and to switch the blame onto the disabled seems very unfair.

[The Lone Gunman]

What about the tube trains which don't have electronic signs? Surely they should all be withdrawn?

When you consider the tube and other public transport companies attitudes to improving disabled access this might be the only way!

[privateeye]

28 trains withdrawn as disability groups complain that letters on signs are too small

The Government’s disability advisers have persuaded ministers that the trains must be mothballed, even though thousands of passengers on the Reading to Waterloo route may have to cram on to shorter trains as a result.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...155360,00.html

Milan.

The trains on this line run every 30 mins and its only about 30 miles long so according to this story there is a train running approximately each minute or about 24 are already mothballed so they can keep to running each 30 mins without congestion. Nobody looks at the signs unless they want to laugh as they quite often are misleading ie on the journey from R to W the order of stations is as if you have left W going to R.

[threaded]

The trains on this line run every 30 mins and its only about 30 miles long so according to this story there is a train running approximately each minute or about 24 are already mothballed so they can keep to running each 30 mins without congestion. Nobody looks at the signs unless they want to laugh as they quite often are misleading ie on the journey from R to W the order of stations is as if you have left W going to R.

Now stop being sensible.

The best way to experience this is to go to Japan and there's a sign on the platform for the train from Osaka to Kyoto and basically it says, something like, in Japanese. (I have a photo of it somewhere as it made me LOL when I first saw it.)

the station to the west, to the west, to the west, to the west, to the west, of Kyoto
the station to the west, to the west, to the west, to the west, of Kyoto
the station to the west, to the west, to the west, of Kyoto
the station to the west, to the west, of Kyoto
the station to the west, of Kyoto
the station Kyoto
the station to the east, of Kyoto
the station to the east, to the east, of Kyoto
the station to the east, to the east, to the east, of Kyoto
the station to the east, to the east, to the east, to the east, of Kyoto
the station to the east, to the east, to the east, to the east, to the east, of Kyoto

And the public announcements were in some really broad country Japanese that the Japanese friends I was with found incomprehensible.

Now, I've got to find that photo out and put it up on my webtulipe.

[privateeye]

Now stop being sensible.

The best way to experience this is to go to Japan and there's a sign on the platform for the train from Osaka to Kyoto and basically it says, something like, in Japanese. (I have a photo of it somewhere as it made me LOL when I first saw it.)

the station to the west, to the west, to the west, to the west, to the west, of Kyoto
the station to the west, to the west, to the west, to the west, of Kyoto
the station to the west, to the west, to the west, of Kyoto
the station to the west, to the west, of Kyoto
the station to the west, of Kyoto
the station Kyoto
the station to the east, of Kyoto
the station to the east, to the east, of Kyoto
the station to the east, to the east, to the east, of Kyoto
the station to the east, to the east, to the east, to the east, of Kyoto
the station to the east, to the east, to the east, to the east, to the east, of Kyoto

And the public announcements were in some really broad country Japanese that the Japanese friends I was with found incomprehensible.

Now, I've got to find that photo out and put it up on my webtulipe.

The best announcement I heard was at waterloo. " the next train to portsmouth will be delayed by 50 mins - due to the first half of the train being in portsmouth and the second half in woking"

[monkeyboy]

The best mistake I every heard (well almost mistake)

Announceron the train funnily enough the portmouth line to.

Sorry for the delay to your journey this is due to a person on the track at surburton. The police are in attendance but it will take some time for them to cl...... recitfy the situation. Thankyou.

[janey]

Surbiton

[EternalOptimist]

In the colonies they are much more relaxed about these things.
In 1986 in Toronto I was waiting for a train the morning after the Canadian junior ice hockey team had had a punch up with the Russian junior ice hockey team on ice.
The departures announcement read 'whats got 16 arms 16 legs eight heads and five teeth - the Russian junior ice hockey team'

[monkeyboy]

Thank you Janey.

I go past there everyday too.

Please