Oh Dear: Spot the difference (it's 3mm)

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But I do have a co-worker in Sydney, Australia, who is working remotely for me. I shall ask him what it is like at the moment.

[BoredBloke]

"I hate to be a quibbler , but Rolf Harris is actually currently living in the UK, so to ring him about the weather in Australia would be pointless. "

I would bet that Rolf knows more people in Australia than I do, so he would be better placed than me for contacting somebody in Australia to check on the suns status. Rolf could check with this person and relay the message.

[threaded]

Weather in Sydney Australia: The sun has gone down. The stars are out. It is quite warm.

[Bitbucket]

I would bet that Rolf knows more people in Australia than I do, so he would be better placed than me for contacting somebody in Australia to check on the suns status. Rolf could check with this person and relay the message

I think that we would have to be more careful than that ,people often exaggerate about the weather and they might be telling Rolf lies , we could get him to double confirm it by asking a policeman or a Judge , or maybe a hairdresser , I have found them to be very truthful.

(Bitbucket taking the pi$$ )

[EternalOptimist]

I think the answer would be to ask someone who doesnt have an axe to grind. Get Rolf to contact a person with no arms who has gas-fired central heating.

[Gold Dalek]

As the parent of a blind child, I agree with what is happening here. OK this is an extreme state of affairs, but where would you draw the line? So the letters are only 3mm too short, so that is ok - what is 3 mm? But what if they were 5mm, or 10mm too short. When does the short become too short.

People with poor sight do not have the option of using their own forms of transport for the obvious reasons. Because they cannot simply jump into their car, having a sign to inform those who have some useable sight is not too much to ask. The standards were produced to provide uniformaty, allowing somebody to travel, knowing that if they can read the signs on one leg of their journey then they can expect to be able to read the signs on other parts of it.

So they wouldn't be able to hear the accompanying announcements then, or would that be too pragmatic and not sufficiently accomodating?

While your personal circumstances are regrettable – what you are actually saying is that it’s fine to inconvenience the majority as long as minorities are catered for = disability fascism

Slightly off topic have you noticed the increasing amount of signed programmes on the TV with the intrusive signer distractingly doing their stuff in the bottom right of the picture – presumably for those with impaired hearing… err what was wrong with subtitles?

[Davros]

So they wouldn't be able to hear the accompanying announcements then, or would that be too pragmatic and not sufficiently accomodating?

While your personal circumstances are regrettable – what you are actually saying is that it’s fine to inconvenience the majority as long as minorities are catered for = disability fascism

Yes, it seems interesting that it's perceived to be better to have trains that are inadequate for all than trains that are inadequate for the deaf and blind.

[BoredBloke]

"So they wouldn't be able to hear the accompanying announcements then, or would that be too pragmatic and not sufficiently accomodating?"

Can you hear the announcements clearly, every time? How often do you hear the announcement and then check the sign on the platform or the display in the train before getting off? Now imagine that you have difficulty seeing whereby the visual signs are not an option. Also, people with limited sight need more time to get to the door than is given by the announcement.

"what you are actually saying is that it’s fine to inconvenience the majority as long as minorities are catered for = disability fascism"

No that is not what I'm saying. What I am saying is that if these signs do not adhere to the regulations then they should be replaced. How long does it take to replace a few LED displays. I would say that the trains in question should stay in service with an agreement to have the signs changed by a set date. A smaller sign is better than no sign but to decide not to change them at all is not the right option.

I wouldn't call this disabilty facism either. It is simply a case of doing a few small things to make life a little easier for people who have to rely on public transport as their only means of transport.

[BoredBloke]

"Yes, it seems interesting that it's perceived to be better to have trains that are inadequate for all than trains that are inadequate for the deaf and blind."

If you read the article it states that the trains were ordered in 1997, one year before the act came into being. So they have had since 1998 to install new screens. As far as I'm concerned this looks like the train company was trying to call the govt's bluff on this.

[hyperD]

There does appear to be more of this pandering going on - on various aspects of society.

I was on an 8 hour night flight back to Blighty 20 mins into a film when an announcement was made that there was a problem with the entertainment system and some passengers couldn't see the films. The system was rebooted and I started to watch the film again.

20 minutes later they announced that some passengers still couldn't see the films and then the trolley dolly said the word that made my blood boil.

"In the interest of fairness, we will be showing one film only so that all passengers can see a film. As we have children on board we will select Harry Potter and the Attention Deficit Disorder or something."

Big groan as people threw their headphones away. I mean FFS, it was a night flight and all the kids were asleep.

People are so fcuked up with this propaganda of pandering to the bottom line that it is fast becoming comical.

I blame Prescott myself.