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Italy's bond yields at record levels today ....

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    #11
    Here's the UK's from the same source:

    United Kingdom GDP Annual Growth Rate

    Spot the difference the markets have noticed?
    Hard Brexit now!
    #prayfornodeal

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      #12
      Originally posted by sasguru View Post
      Absolute nonsense.
      Italy's debt/GDP is a whopping 120%. Their growth rates over the last 15 years show they cannot pay that back.
      Italy's debt is the third largest in the world.
      That's why the SHARKS are CIRCLING them.

      HTH
      The past has come back to haunt the current European leaders who's predecessors allowed 'certain' Southern European countries to join the Euro when their some-what cooked books showed they met the joining criteria.

      Someone's going to make shed-loads of cash out of this while the ordinary people across Europe suffer for it.

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        #13
        I am now shorting Ferraris and pizzas.
        What happens in General, stays in General.
        You know what they say about assumptions!

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          #14
          Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
          Can't Berlusconi lend Italy some money?
          Problem is Fininvest has debts in the order of hundreds of millions.
          <Insert idea here> will never be adopted because the politicians are in the pockets of the banks!

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            #15
            Originally posted by sasguru View Post

            You ought to reference your charts, since that is NOT Italy's growth rate as conventially measured.

            This shows that, as most experts agree, Italy's growth rate rarely hit 1% over the last 15 years.

            Italy GDP Growth Rate
            Those are quarterly growth rates.



            You ADD THEM UP for the year

            Here's a cross check with the figures I put up earlier.

            Eurostat - Tables, Graphs and Maps Interface (TGM) table

            You can also check other sources if you like.

            HTH
            I'm alright Jack

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              #16
              Growth rates are presumably real (inflation adjusted)? Trouble is, official inflation figures are a fiction, or a creative art at the very least.

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                #17
                If they hit 7% then ECB have a mechanism to lend at a reduced rate, so no worries, the euro leaders are on top of it, look how quickly they sorted out The Greek.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
                  Those are quarterly growth rates.



                  You ADD THEM UP for the year

                  Here's a cross check with the figures I put up earlier.

                  Eurostat - Tables, Graphs and Maps Interface (TGM) table

                  You can also check other sources if you like.

                  HTH
                  You really are thick as 2 short planks aren't you?

                  Compare Italy's annual real growth rate with the UK's over the last 15 years.

                  Poorly educated Moron.
                  Hard Brexit now!
                  #prayfornodeal

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
                    You really are thick as 2 short planks aren't you?

                    Compare Italy's annual real growth rate with the UK's over the last 15 years.

                    Poorly educated Moron.
                    WHS, sorry.
                    Knock first as I might be balancing my chakras.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by sasguru View Post
                      You really are thick as 2 short planks aren't you?

                      Compare Italy's annual real growth rate with the UK's over the last 15 years.

                      Poorly educated Moron.
                      Well lets check yet another source shall we.


                      https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...s/2003.html#it

                      2010 UK GDP 1.3% growth
                      2010 Italy GDP 1.3% growth



                      Interesting 3 different sources have exactly the same figures.

                      It's always good practice to debate with someone who's as thick as pigsh*t.
                      I'm alright Jack

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