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    #21
    Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
    You're begging the question. Why should I 'belong' somewhere?
    So if you were elected where would your interests and voting preferences lie

    National - the country that gave you a European passport?
    International - the country you originated from (do you feel any affinity for the African nation you were born in?)
    Local - the country that you happen to be residing in at a particular time
    How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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      #22
      Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
      Well, in that sense, yes, I 'belong' where my family is; that's NL, UK, Australia and Germany at the moment.
      aye, home is where the heart is and blood is thicker than water




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        #23
        Originally posted by Troll View Post
        So if you were elected where would your interests and voting preferences lie

        National - the country that gave you a European passport?
        International - the country you originated from (do you feel any affinity for the African nation you were born in?)
        Local - the country that you happen to be residing in at a particular time
        None of the above. As I said, I have a conscience which guides my actions; I think a bit further than national or regional boundaries and try to do what's right (in my mind; others might have another idea of what's right).
        And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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          #24
          Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
          ( others might have another idea of what's right).
          sorry - part of being an elected member of Parliament involves making difficult choices and decisions, you cannot be all things to all people all of the time

          Would your birth place influence in any way your voting pattern - if the UK was to go to war with that African country, or say a group of Lobbyists want their UK company to be allowed to extract raw materials from that nation - would you have the UK or that countries interests at heart?
          How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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            #25
            Originally posted by Troll View Post
            sorry - part of being an elected member of Parliament involves making difficult choices and decisions, you cannot be all things to all people all of the time

            Would your birth place influence in any way your voting pattern - if the UK was to go to war with that African country, or say a group of Lobbyists want their UK company to be allowed to extract raw materials from that nation - would you have the UK or that countries interests at heart?
            No, I've already explained my thinking. I think I've made it pretty clear that I judge situations independently of the location of myself or anyone else being pushed out of a womb.

            You haven't answered my primary issue with your idea; you wish to restrict the people in choosing their representatives further than that is already restricted, and you haven't given a good reason for doing something that involves biting a big chunk off people's freedom to choose.
            And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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              #26
              Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
              No, I've already explained my thinking. I think I've made it pretty clear that I judge situations independently of the location of myself or anyone else being pushed out of a womb.

              You haven't answered my primary issue with your idea; you wish to restrict the people in choosing their representatives further than that is already restricted, and you haven't given a good reason for doing something that involves biting a big chunk off people's freedom to choose.
              I believe I have answered that question:
              That access to Parliament should be restricted to those who have a vested interest in the well being of the nation, and that interest will most likely arise from being born in this country, rather than being some transient place of abode
              How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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                #27
                Originally posted by Troll View Post
                I believe I have answered that question:
                That access to Parliament should be restricted to those who have a vested interest in the well being of the nation, and that interest will most likely arise from being born in this country, rather than being some transient place of abode
                I don't care what their nationality is, as long as they do what is best for Britain.
                There are plenty of home grown MPs who seem to think that they can put a global role first. Many immigrants are more protective of GB than its indigenous population.
                Just saying like.

                where there's chaos, there's cash !

                I could agree with you, but then we would both be wrong!

                Lowering the tone since 1963

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Arturo Bassick View Post
                  I don't care what their nationality is, as long as they do what is best for Britain.
                  So we could outsource Parliament.. I like it!

                  much cheapness
                  How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Troll View Post
                    I believe I have answered that question:
                    That access to Parliament should be restricted to those who have a vested interest in the well being of the nation, and that interest will most likely arise from being born in this country, rather than being some transient place of abode
                    Like this chap and his friends?

                    Mohammad Sidique Khan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                    Or Guy Fawkes?

                    Or Oswald Mosley?


                    Anyway, who are you to decide on restricting the freedom of 60-odd million other people to choose their own representatives?
                    And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Troll View Post
                      So we could outsource Parliament.. I like it!

                      much cheapness
                      You're charicaturing his argument; he hasn't said parliament could be outsourced, he's defended his freedom to vote for the person that he feels represents his interests; a freedom that you wish to remove.
                      And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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