Time for a new British (or English) identity

[Le Rosbif]

The 'Eurabia' myth deserves a debunking - The Globe and Mail

written by liberals for liberals

the earth is flat - I read it in the "globe"

[Le Rosbif]

The 'Eurabia' myth deserves a debunking - The Globe and Mail

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Doug, you had a good article on Wikileaks, but you've missed the mark with this one.

This is an intellectual article that focuses on Mark Steyn (whoever he is), the Enlightenment, Christianity and academic studies. However, the article fails to take into account what ordinary Europeans are feeling as they helplessly watch their societies change around them. There has been a massive influx of Muslims into many Western European countries over the last few decades. Europe is a tolerant open society, so it is inevitable that this is going to have an effect.

Sure, some of it is does not relate to Islam. Islam cannot explain why some young immigrants turn to crime for example. But let me give you a few examples that do relate to the cultural aspects of Islam: women shopping publicly in European streets while wearing veils and walking behind their husbands; women-only hours in public institutions; young macho Muslims publicly insulting European girls for their promiscuity; Jews and gays unable to walk safely in public; Jewish and gay teachers being hounded by their Muslim students; medical services in which male caregivers cannot treat female patients; and so on.

Islam does not teach these things, but these are the trappings of Muslim-based culture that Western Europeans are now facing on a daily basis. I'm sorry but none of these things is acceptable. I'm not sure what the Eurabia myth is exactly, but if it means these things, then it is not a myth at all.

[xoggoth]

Nice idea Doodab but governments trying to encourage what they see as responsible or productive business over others does not have a good track record.

Harold Wilson tried it with Selective Employment Tax but it never really acheived anything as hard and fast distinctions between "good" manufacturing and "bad" speculative money making do not exist. Thriving manufacturing businesses also need to make money in speculative ways, selling unused land or property for the best price for example.

One of the reasons a businessman will try and build his business is so that it will have a market value. We can't just selectively pick and choose motives without diminishing incentive to succeed at all. Much better for government to put in place laws to prevent people being ripped off and otherwise keep out of the way.

[sasguru]

written by liberals for liberals

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Is that because only "liberals" can understand maths, while all bigots like you can do is exaggerate and whine?

[sasguru]

Going back to the original topic, I think there is too much emphasis on starting businesses with a short to medium term goal of selling the business rather than building sustainable profit making enterprises and staying involved. We should do more to encourage the latter and also to discourage reliance on debt funding, perhaps by looking at the way debt interest is used to offset corporation tax, particularly when this is used as simply as a means to fund large dividends and reduce tax bills.

Spoken like a true disguised employee.

[CheeseSlice]

Free market ideas with proper government regulation, otherwise agree with all that.

and personal accountability!

i.e. If you steer a gargantuan bank into the red through feckless speculation and greed, causing the taxpayer to bail it out, you WILL get your nads chopped off...

[Le Rosbif]

Is that because only "liberals" can understand maths, while all bigots like you can do is exaggerate and whine?

Are you not tired of all the kids in your village throwing stones at you?

[Churchill]

Are you not tired of all the kids in your village throwing stones at you?

Hey **** off! We like throwing stones at him, he's our "idiot cretin"*

*like an idiot savant but without the redeeming features...

[doodab]

Spoken like a true disguised employee.

Wrong again potato brain. I've had 5 different clients this year and in the last 3 months I've spent more time developing my own product than I have on client engagements. Now go and get your boss his cup of tea, there's a good little permie.

[sasguru]

Wrong again potato brain. I've had 5 different clients this year and in the last 3 months I've spent more time developing my own product than I have on client engagements. Now go and get your boss his cup of tea, there's a good little permie.

Do your contracts keep being terminated for incompetence?

PS I have minions who make me tea. I report direct to the MD. HTH