Should we vote on Europe?

[Churchill]

A tricky one. IMO, better off out of europe to stop getting involved in pointless wars and sending lambs the slaughter (hate those army adverts) but a common market makes sense.

0/10 - Crap trolling.

Must try harder.

[Mich the Tester]

Pretty much looks like it, all in all.

The EU these days bears very little resemblance to "The Common Market" as it was sold to us mugs back in 1975.

No, no. They're just as frustrated, but there has to be some unity among the 'can usually pay their own bills' countries to get the problems sorted out. Better for Call-me-Dave and 15 Pint Hague to start building that unity than pull out, and I suspect they know that.

[Lockhouse]

I'm a UKIP member, a referendum is necessary. If the result goes the wrong way I'll shut up but it is necessary.

[keninparis]

0/10 - Crap trolling.

Must try harder.

Don't know what trolling means. Ah, so no one is allowed an opinion.

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[Churchill]

Don't know what trolling means. Ah, so no one is allowed an opinion.

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Well if you're feeling particularly paranoid, I am but you're not. This forum isn't a democracy.

[Mich the Tester]

I'm a UKIP member, a referendum is necessary. If the result goes the wrong way I'll shut up but it is necessary.

How can anyone support referenda and then say the result might ' go the wrong way'? Surely if your belief in the collective wisdom of the people is so strong you want them to decide things by popular vote, it's a contradiction to suggest the result might ' go the wrong way'?

[keninparis]

This forum isn't a democracy.

CUK should maybe mention this in their T&Cs. Think best back out of this one.
No offence intended.
KR.

[Churchill]

How can anyone support referenda and then say the result might ' go the wrong way'? Surely if your belief in the collective wisdom of the people is so strong you want them to decide things by popular vote, it's a contradiction to suggest the result might ' go the wrong way'?

Well, blessed is just about everyone with a vested interest in the status quo, as far as I can tell, Reg.

Gratuitous MP quote.

[VectraMan]

I'm a UKIP member, a referendum is necessary. If the result goes the wrong way I'll shut up but it is necessary.

Why is a referendum necessary? If there's really the public will, then why didn't UKIP win the election? There's been eight(?) general elections since 1975. If people were mislead about the common market in 1975, and the public is really desperate for us to get out of Europe, why haven't they expressed that opinion in those eight general elections?

[Arturo Bassick]

Why is a referendum necessary? If there's really the public will, then why didn't UKIP win the election? There's been eight(?) general elections since 1975. If people were mislead about the common market in 1975, and the public is really desperate for us to get out of Europe, why haven't they expressed that opinion in those eight general elections?

I think the last 3 general elections have been won by parties promising a referendum on Europe in some form or another, certainly the last 2. All have reneged on these manifesto promises citing some sort of political slight of hand.

There are certain factions of the public that will only ever vote one way. Far too stupid to realise they are being shafted. Others have vested interests.

Maybe a change in the political system is needed. You only get to vote if you are contributing to the UK. Tax resident and employed.