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Watching Thatcher's famous Euro speech on YouTube (I don't have a link as I'm at work but it's the one about 15 mins long) makes one realise;
1) She was extraordinarily prescient about what would happen to Europe.
2) We don't have proper politicians anymore....my quagmire of greed....my cesspit of laziness and unfairness....all I am doing is sticking two fingers up at nurses, doctors and other hard working employed professionals...
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Originally posted by doodab View PostIt's a gamble. We need to plan for the € collapsing but we also need to consider that if a true US of Europe emerges over the next 10 years and we are left out that could also be disadvantageous for us.
We only want to trade with other countries, and it's to nobody's advantage to prevent an independent UK from doing so.Comment
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Originally posted by zeitghost3) She was as mad as a box of frogs by the end.Comment
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Originally posted by craig1 View PostDidn't like the woman in the slightest but even at her most insane and scary she was still more competent than any prime minister since. I can't ever imagine her hugging a hoodie.Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Originally posted by zeitghostI can.
She'd use a garotte.Comment
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Hang on a mo, the reason why Thatcher said that wasn't because she'd had some superhuman premonition into what would happen. What she'd done was observe East and West Germany unifying their currencies and the sudden collapse of East German indusrties that required huge transfers.
This did not happen. In other words unifying the currencies did not lead to an immediate collapse of weaker economies that required immediate fiscal transfers.
What has happened is that countries have "gorged" themselves on cheap debt, and left French and German banks so exposed that they're now forced to keep them going until the banks have sufficient capital.
Now we can argue that she was right "sort of" but she didn't predict that. It's more "luck".
People are reading a bit much in here, with her foresight.I'm alright JackComment
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Originally posted by Doggy Styles View PostBeing left out of the US of Europe would be a blessing. What would we want to subsume ourselves into that for?
We only want to trade with other countries, and it's to nobody's advantage to prevent an independent UK from doing so.While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'Comment
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The United States of Europe aint going to happen, but what will happen is that EU fiscal rules will have to be strengthened. The closest you will get to a "United States of Europe" is Eurobonds.I'm alright JackComment
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Originally posted by zeitghostI worry about you.Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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