Is "911" the United States "Holocaust"?

[TimberWolf]

Sometimes I agree with George. Othertimes not. But least he's his own politician so that makes him interesting

whs. Entertaining at the very least.

[TimberWolf]

As I watch "World Trade Center [sic]" on C4, I Googled on world trade collapse survivors: 9-11 Research: World Trade Center Survivors

This survival story seems notably remarkable:

Pasquale Buzzelli, a structural engineer for the Port Authority, and Genelle Guzman, a secretary, were in offices on the 64th floor of the North Tower when the building was hit. Buzzelli and 15 co-workers thought they would be safer remaining in the building and stayed until the South Tower came down, which shook their office. Then smoke started to come in and they decided to evacuate via the B stairwell. The group spread out as they descended, with Buzzelli and Guzman ahead of the others. They had reached the lower floors when the Tower began to come down. Buzzelli and Guzman, who were together at the time, remember their location differently -- he thinking the 22nd and she the 13th floor. Buzzelli was knocked unconscious for three hours, and awoke on a hill of rubble, looking at the sky. Suffering from a broken foot, cuts and a concussion, he was extracted by rescue workers and evacuated on a stretcher. 2 Guzman, who was just below the surface, was rescued more than 27 hours after the Tower fell. Her leg was crushed but she fully recovered within four months.

So they were a fair few floors up when a building fell on them and they ended up at the top of the rubble. The destruction around them (not least from above) almost defies imagination, at least in a survivable way.

[Incognito]

whs. Entertaining at the very least.

The man is a scumbag. He's very careful to ensure he is not seen as racist / or anti-semitic, so far be it from me to accuse him of any of those things. There's a lot to be said for the company the man keeps though:

Mr. Galloway is seeking $1.5 million in damages, claiming that Keeney and Velshi abused their authority when banning Galloway from entering Canada after he applied for a Canadian Visa in March 2009, a move that Mr. Galloway described as “idiotic” at the time. He had been preparing to stage a speaking tour across the country addressing the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, but was barred from entering following allegations that he had financially supported Palestinian group Hamas, considered a terrorist organisation by Ottawa. Instead, Mr. Galloway addressed his audience by video message.

Mr. Galloway had made a personal donation of £25,000 to the group, which he said was intended to be used for aid purposes; however the Canadian government ruled that this constituted explicit support for a terrorist organisation. On appeal, a judge concluded that there were insufficient grounds to overrule.

British former MP George Galloway sues Canadian Immigration minister

That's the same Hamas that has as part of its charter:

The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews.(related by al-Bukhari and Moslem) [Article 7]

The Avalon Project : Hamas Covenant 1988

"This is not charity, this is politics" he said.



Quick question about this link here Paddy.

Galloway Giving Cash to Hamas - YouTube

from 5 minutes onwards, "we will drive them away" he says. Who do you think he means he's driving away from this 'single state solution'?

<admin note>Expanded on your quote so that it did not appear that you were saying that George Galloway had actually financially supported Hamas but that he had been accused of this...</admin note>

[NickFitz]

The United States are about to alienate themselves again from the Arab states with their pro-Israeli stance and arrogance.

They got a bloody nose on 9th September 2001, the way they're going they'll get another.

Indeed, the final concert of Disneyland's Country Bear Jamboree sent shockwaves throughout the nation.

I think the events of 11th September 2001 helped take their minds off it though

[AtW]

Indeed, the final concert of Disneyland's Country Bear Jamboree sent shockwaves throughout the nation.

I think the events of 11th September 2001 helped take their minds off it though

So in conclusion Churchill (the dog) is an idiot.

[Churchill]

Who on this thread has actually been to Israel and Palestine? Until you have and have actually experienced how both parties interact with each other on a daily basis then I think you don't really have an understanding of the realities and should get back to posting about flying spaghetti and word associations.

I have.

[Churchill]

Indeed, the final concert of Disneyland's Country Bear Jamboree sent shockwaves throughout the nation.

I think the events of 11th September 2001 helped take their minds off it though

Thanks Nick. Should have reread my post.

Duly edited.

[AtW]

Thanks Nick. Should have reread my post.

Duly edited.

You should not have typed your post.

HTH

[Churchill]

You should not have typed your post.

HTH

You shouldn't have read it.

Just you carry on in your little western centric world.

[AtW]

Just you carry on in your little western centric world.

I will - be grateful you live in the west because in places like Iran or Palestine you would live long after disagreeing with local regime