Is "911" the United States "Holocaust"?

[NotAllThere]

Israel attacked America to provoke an attack on Israel's enemies. And I thought the ones convinced it was the US attacking itself were loons.

You've read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, haven't you.

[AtW]

Israel attacked America to provoke an attack on Israel's enemies. And I thought the ones convinced it was the US attacking itself were loons.

WHS

I wish those cretins at least made up their mind about some single conspiracy reason rather than trying all sort of crazy ideas one after another.

Get a fooking life or at least try to have half believable fantasies.

[sal626]

Well, thats the thing with conspiracy theories, there are many different ones flying around. I don’t believe all of them, but I thing some do justify further investigation.

What definitely does need further investigation is some of the official account. FBI documents still state that a passport of one of the hijackers who crashed into the Twin towers was discovered on the street. BBC reported this initially but since have taken that news item down.

WTC7 not even covered in the official 911 commission report...

Just two weeks ago I heard one of the BBC documentaries quoting a NORAD rep saying that the reason they could not track the planes over US soil was the equipment they had was designed to counter threats from outside their borders – really? They never thought that a Russian plane or missile during the cold war might ever make it across the border and they might need to track it??

[Gibbon]

Well, thats the thing with conspiracy theories, there are many different ones flying around. I don’t believe all of them, but I thing some do justify further investigation.

What definitely does need further investigation is some of the official account. FBI documents still state that a passport of one of the hijackers who crashed into the Twin towers was discovered on the street. BBC reported this initially but since have taken that news item down.

WTC7 not even covered in the official 911 commission report...

Just two weeks ago I heard one of the BBC documentaries quoting a NORAD rep saying that the reason they could not track the planes over US soil was the equipment they had was designed to counter threats from outside their borders – really? They never thought that a Russian plane or missile during the cold war might ever make it across the border and they might need to track it??

You've just answered your own question, if you had ever worked in air traffic or radar tracking projects you would know this to be plausible.

[sal626]

Gibbon,

I have never worked on any of those types of projects, but I am genuinely interested. How would that be plausible?

It may be technically plausible, but would they make such an assumption on a massive defense system? I.e. If a fighter plane does make it across the border, we are not going to track it? I find that odd….

[AtW]

I have never worked on any of those types of projects, but I am genuinely interested. How would that be plausible?

Sectoral long range radars.

It does not matter though, what would NORAD be expected to do when they saw commercial airplane going off course - shoot it down?

[doodab]

Just two weeks ago I heard one of the BBC documentaries quoting a NORAD rep saying that the reason they could not track the planes over US soil was the equipment they had was designed to counter threats from outside their borders – really? They never thought that a Russian plane or missile during the cold war might ever make it across the border and they might need to track it??

They probably assumed that Russian bombers were unlikely to launch from Newark or JFK. Which, when you think about it, is quite reasonable.

[Churchill]

Sectoral long range radars.

It does not matter though, what would NORAD be expected to do when they saw commercial airplane going off course - shoot it down?

Iran Air, Flight 655...

[sal626]

They probably assumed that Russian bombers were unlikely to launch from Newark or JFK. Which, when you think about it, is quite reasonable.

What about launching from Cuba? They could be in USA airspace in a very short time? And its not just aircraft, could also be ICBMs….

Would NORAD really not track those types of threats over US airspace pre 911. I know they say they do it now…

[sal626]

Sectoral long range radars.

It does not matter though, what would NORAD be expected to do when they saw commercial airplane going off course - shoot it down?

I don’t know, what were the protocols pre911?

If we believe Norad, that they did not have capability to track over US airspace, then I guess they would not have any protocols to intercept either…