Tony Blair Antichrist

[Doggy Styles]

But was it though? It was better for us in the long run to cock up everything obviously and quickly, and be booted out at the next election, rather than doing the same more slowly and winning one election after another because too many dozy sheeple voters didn't notice the decline.

13 years wasn't obviously or quickly.

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30% (I think) of the American public who believe that Tony Blair is the AntiChrist.

I very much doubt 30% of the American public know who TB is. 30% probably don't know who the Vice President is.

[doodab]

I very much doubt 30% of the American public know who TB is. 30% probably don't know who the Vice President is.

About 40% of them aren't even entirely sure who they are.

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About 40% of them aren't even entirely sure who they are.

That's entirely normal though and 40% is optimistic for US or UK!

[Doggy Styles]

I very much doubt 30% of the American public know who TB is.

Except anybody who bought the Action Man doll called 'The Ally'.



Although apparently it was outsold by the Bin Laden version.

[AlfredJPruffock]

Former US President Carter on Blair


It's the second time we've talked about Blair. Money has disfigured American politics, Carter says. I ask him about the pledge he made the day after he lost his bid for re-election, when he told the press he would not make money off the back of his presidency. Is that true?

"That is correct," he says. Then he jokes: "It was kind of a weak moment."

What inspired it?

"My favourite president, and the one I admired most, was Harry Truman. When Truman left office he took the same position. He didn't serve on corporate boards. He didn't make speeches around the world for a lot of money."

Unlike Blair, I say. He's made a fortune since leaving office.

"I know he has. I know that."

What do you think of that?

"I wouldn't comment on that."

But then he doesn't need to. His whole life has been a comment on that.

[AlfredJPruffock]

Former US President Carter on Blair



Is the simple fact of not going to war that, given what came next, should be recognised. "In the last 50 years now, more than that," he says, "that's almost a unique achievement." He was bitterly opposed to both Iraq wars. "Iraq was just a terrible mistake. I thought so in Iraq 1, and I was against it in Iraq 2."

And it's not just George W Bush who has blood on his hands, he says, but Tony Blair too:

"I don't know what went on in private meetings when Tony Blair agreed to it. But had Bush not gotten that tacit support from Blair, I don't know if the course of history might have been different."

[shaunbhoy]

Former US President Carter on Blair



Is the simple fact of not going to war that, given what came next, should be recognised. "In the last 50 years now, more than that," he says, "that's almost a unique achievement." He was bitterly opposed to both Iraq wars. "Iraq was just a terrible mistake. I thought so in Iraq 1, and I was against it in Iraq 2."

And it's not just George W Bush who has blood on his hands, he says, but Tony Blair too:

"I don't know what went on in private meetings when Tony Blair agreed to it. But had Bush not gotten that tacit support from Blair, I don't know if the course of history might have been different."

Oh change the fooking record Alf FFS!!

[TimberWolf]

Except anybody who bought the Action Man doll called 'The Ally'.



Although apparently it was outsold by the Bin Laden version.

[MarillionFan]

Lol