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    #61
    Originally posted by eek View Post
    Its worrying because the plan b backup plan is AWS and I couldn't cope with that type of delay.
    Just a few posts earlier you were very relived that you use cloud

    Amazon had massive downtime with loss of data spanning over few days, our main competitor was hit hard though they were the lucky ones and were only down for just over 24 hours.

    They ain't cheap either - if you have money and factor in costs over 3 years then you are better off leasing/buying yourself, in my calculations Amazon would cost the same over 1 year, so 3 times better ROI easily, more if you buy quality stuff that can last 4-5 years.

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      #62
      Originally posted by AtW View Post
      Just a few posts earlier you were very relived that you use cloud

      Amazon had massive downtime with loss of data spanning over few days, our main competitor was hit hard though they were the lucky ones and were only down for just over 24 hours.

      They ain't cheap either - if you have money and factor in costs over 3 years then you are better off leasing/buying yourself, in my calculations Amazon would cost the same over 1 year, so 3 times better ROI easily, more if you buy quality stuff that can last 4-5 years.

      Amazon is the backup plan. Gogrid with actual database servers or Rackspace would be my initial points of call. Azure is only winning as its allowing me to beta test with real life clients for free.
      merely at clientco for the entertainment

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        #63
        Originally posted by eek View Post
        Amazon is the backup plan. Gogrid with actual database servers or Rackspace would be my initial points of call. Azure is only winning as its allowing me to beta test with real life clients for free.
        Rackspace is very expensive.

        Ask Milan who he works for, they must be very cheap

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          #64
          Originally posted by AtW View Post
          Rackspace is very expensive.

          Ask Milan who he works for, they must be very cheap
          They employ Milan. Need a give you a second reason for looking elsewhere.
          merely at clientco for the entertainment

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            #65
            Originally posted by AtW View Post
            Just a few posts earlier you were very relived that you use cloud

            Amazon had massive downtime with loss of data spanning over few days, our main competitor was hit hard though they were the lucky ones and were only down for just over 24 hours.

            They ain't cheap either - if you have money and factor in costs over 3 years then you are better off leasing/buying yourself, in my calculations Amazon would cost the same over 1 year, so 3 times better ROI easily, more if you buy quality stuff that can last 4-5 years.
            True, they are not cheap but they offer a scalable solution which is appealing to smaller start ups on cheaper solutions who want to be able to move plans on an hourly basis. For someone like yourself it is not an option.

            They have had some downtime but if you enter into the spirit of the thing the advantage of cloud is having instances running in all their datacenters.

            Also you have to buy a seperate mailserver as well which is a pain because nobody trusts mails from their servers.

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              #66
              Originally posted by minestrone View Post
              they offer a scalable solution
              They offer excellent vendor lock in for sure - what a lot of start ups need to do is write efficient code or hire people who can do that, this way they won't be using many resources in the first place: we handled literally millions of queries per day with a handful of cheap boxes, lots of very cheap dedicated servers out there that will be managed by the company that rents them out.

              For anything web related its crazy to use Amazon, the only possible valid case I can see in them is being able to run large scale CPU only jobs very rarely, ie: one day a month to run really big job, that's fine, but if you need to run big jobs every day of the month then it's crazy to use Amazon.

              They are not fast (latency wise) either for web hosting. Why on earth use them when you can get VPS for £25 per month and it can handle million requests per day if you are good with coding?

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                #67
                Originally posted by eek View Post
                They employ Milan. Need a give you a second reason for looking elsewhere.
                What Rackspace???

                Wow. That's a lucky escape. I got offered a senior perm job at Rackspace last year. The old tape changer could have been working for me!
                What happens in General, stays in General.
                You know what they say about assumptions!

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                  #68
                  So this is a thread about what exactly?

                  Someone who is going to be homeless by Christmas.....and they are worried about a router or sommat.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
                    So this is a thread about what exactly?

                    Someone who is going to be homeless by Christmas.....and they are worried about a router or sommat.
                    Everybody needs a router right?
                    Me, me, me...

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
                      Someone who is going to be homeless by Christmas.....and they are worried about a router or sommat.
                      Representative of landlord told me not to worry about signing new contract because it will turn into "continuous tenancy" that is nice and easy and I can give just 1 month notice to them and they can give 2 months notice to me ...

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