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In every country I've ever visited I've come across this argument that 'other cultures' or 'other nationalities' are more prone to crime/laziness/fecklessness and so on. Somehow it doesn't work unless there's some country I've missed where all the locals are criminals and only the immigrants are honest.And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014 -
The context is clear: over the native culture of whatever country.Originally posted by ThomasSoerensen View PostMore than what?
Some external cultures more than other external cultures? or Some external cultures have more of a propensity than English/UK culture?
It seems you do not have a good grasp of the English language. I suggest you study it over the weekend.
I would have thought it obvious, but I do understand that English is your second language.Hard Brexit now!
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I gave your message the respect it deserved.Originally posted by Incognito View PostThanks, doesn't change the message though.
HTHHard Brexit now!
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Thanks, I'm sure you'll take it on board then.Originally posted by sasguru View PostI gave your message the respect it deserved.
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You're missing the point. I think its clear that some cultures are more hard-working and succesful than others, immigrants or not. You only have to look at the education and employment statistics for that. If a group of Somali refugees is suddenly housed on an estate and crime goes up as a consequence as has happened in London, I think the locals (of whatever ethnic origin) are entitled to ask questions.Originally posted by Mich the Tester View PostIn every country I've ever visited I've come across this argument that 'other cultures' or 'other nationalities' are more prone to crime/laziness/fecklessness and so on. Somehow it doesn't work unless there's some country I've missed where all the locals are criminals and only the immigrants are honest.Hard Brexit now!
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Indeed, but the effects are often exaggerated.Originally posted by sasguru View PostYou're missing the point. I think its clear that some cultures are more hard-working and succesful than others, immigrants or not. You only have to look at the education and employment statistics for that. If a group of Somali refugees is suddenly housed on an estate and crime goes up as a consequence as has happened in London, I think the locals (of whatever ethnic origin) are entitled to ask questions.And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014Comment
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Yes I'll put it where the sun don't shine. Probably in the garage with my two old broken motor bikesOriginally posted by Incognito View PostThanks, I'm sure you'll take it on board then.

Hard Brexit now!
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How do you know if you don't experience it? I haven't but I'm willing to think I might be up in arms if it happened to me.Originally posted by Mich the Tester View PostIndeed, but the effects are often exaggerated.Hard Brexit now!
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I can imagine. But is this more to do with the question of allowing immigrants into the country or the practise of dumping them all in one neighbourhood, usually one with significant levels of deprivation?Originally posted by sasguru View PostHow do you know if you don't experience it? I haven't but I'm willing to think I might be up in arms if it happened to me.
You surely realise that European agriculture can't survive without immigrants. Well I suppose it could, if people wanted mucky jobs in fields and want to pay twice as much for their food, but that isn't going to happen.
Which returns us to what Soerensen and I were discussing, and what you suggested; people can't have this and that without there being some cost, financial or social.And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014Comment
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That is indeed the key but how do you make people understand that?Originally posted by Mich the Tester View PostIWhich returns us to what Soerensen and I were discussing, and what you suggested; people can't have this and that without there being some cost, financial or social.Hard Brexit now!
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