Reply to: Financial experts and lay persons

[lilelvis2000]

You're missing the point. I think its clear that some cultures are more hard-working and succesful than others, immigrants or not. You only have to look at the education and employment statistics for that. If a group of Somali refugees is suddenly housed on an estate and crime goes up as a consequence as has happened in London, I think the locals (of whatever ethnic origin) are entitled to ask questions.

One only needs to look at the stats relating to prisons to know that there are cultures which are highly prone to crime. It gets pushed under the carpet and through denial and community coverups, but its slowly coming out. And its getting harder to remove foreign criminals as well....

[sasguru]

Ever heard of a phenomenon called "chinese whispers"?

All people don't allways tell only the truth. some parts get exaggerated and other parts get reduced.

No crap, Sherlock!

[ThomasSoerensen]

How do you know if you don't experience it? I haven't but I'm willing to think I might be up in arms if it happened to me.

Ever heard of a phenomenon called "chinese whispers"?

All people don't allways tell only the truth. some parts get exaggerated and other parts get reduced.

[sasguru]

IWhich returns us to what Soerensen and I were discussing, and what you suggested; people can't have this and that without there being some cost, financial or social.

That is indeed the key but how do you make people understand that?

[Mich the Tester]

How do you know if you don't experience it? I haven't but I'm willing to think I might be up in arms if it happened to me.

I can imagine. But is this more to do with the question of allowing immigrants into the country or the practise of dumping them all in one neighbourhood, usually one with significant levels of deprivation?

You surely realise that European agriculture can't survive without immigrants. Well I suppose it could, if people wanted mucky jobs in fields and want to pay twice as much for their food, but that isn't going to happen.

Which returns us to what Soerensen and I were discussing, and what you suggested; people can't have this and that without there being some cost, financial or social.

[sasguru]

Indeed, but the effects are often exaggerated.

How do you know if you don't experience it? I haven't but I'm willing to think I might be up in arms if it happened to me.

[sasguru]

Thanks, I'm sure you'll take it on board then.

Yes I'll put it where the sun don't shine. Probably in the garage with my two old broken motor bikes

[Mich the Tester]

You're missing the point. I think its clear that some cultures are more hard-working and succesful than others, immigrants or not. You only have to look at the education and employment statistics for that. If a group of Somali refugees is suddenly housed on an estate and crime goes up as a consequence as has happened in London, I think the locals (of whatever ethnic origin) are entitled to ask questions.

Indeed, but the effects are often exaggerated.

[sasguru]

In every country I've ever visited I've come across this argument that 'other cultures' or 'other nationalities' are more prone to crime/laziness/fecklessness and so on. Somehow it doesn't work unless there's some country I've missed where all the locals are criminals and only the immigrants are honest.

You're missing the point. I think its clear that some cultures are more hard-working and succesful than others, immigrants or not. You only have to look at the education and employment statistics for that. If a group of Somali refugees is suddenly housed on an estate and crime goes up as a consequence as has happened in London, I think the locals (of whatever ethnic origin) are entitled to ask questions.

[Incognito]

I gave your message the respect it deserved.

HTH

Thanks, I'm sure you'll take it on board then.

[sasguru]

Thanks, doesn't change the message though.

I gave your message the respect it deserved.

HTH

[sasguru]

More than what?

Some external cultures more than other external cultures? or Some external cultures have more of a propensity than English/UK culture?

It seems you do not have a good grasp of the English language. I suggest you study it over the weekend.

The context is clear: over the native culture of whatever country.
I would have thought it obvious, but I do understand that English is your second language.

[Mich the Tester]

More than what?

Some external cultures more than other external cultures? or Some external cultures have more of a propensity than English/UK culture?

It seems you do not have a good grasp of the English language. I suggest you study it over the weekend.

In every country I've ever visited I've come across this argument that 'other cultures' or 'other nationalities' are more prone to crime/laziness/fecklessness and so on. Somehow it doesn't work unless there's some country I've missed where all the locals are criminals and only the immigrants are honest.

[Incognito]

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HTH

Thanks, doesn't change the message though.

[sasguru]

I think the answer to your question is what type of 'financial professional' would you quantify yourself as. Although to chide Mich, you're not arrogant. Just one sad deluded tw@t who is bitter and twisted that Alexi has managed to make far more of a success of himself than you have so you have to invent little plan Bs and the like (such as pretend motorbikes) to try and paint yourself something other than the sad deluded individual that you really are.

I'm surprised you keep coming here to post anyway, I'm sure there is plenty of other people all queued up to tell you what a complete chump you are. Maybe it's the anonymity of the web that you crave, it lets you hide behind that persona you try and create whereas in real life people label you quite easily as a gimp without you even having to open arse and engage brain.

HTH, BIDI

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HTH