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    #11
    Originally posted by Paddy View Post
    Education is not just about getting qualifications but also teaching kids to become responsible adults. Years ago it would have been the responsibility of the parents and extended family to teach the kids on how to behave but today it’s left to the schools. The matter is made worse when some schools let the pupils decide what they want to do when in fact they are too young to decide.
    Yep, and if schools are constantly subjected to GCSE league tables as the only measure of quality there'll be no room for the moral aspects.

    My only experience of teaching kids is in coaching at the rugby club, and no, they certainly aren't all kids from nice middle class backgrounds; quite a few are from the nextdoor council estate and can only train because a sponsor pays their membership fees. They respond well to positive role models, but the key is to avoid falling into the trap of trying to coach a rugby team to win matches. I attended a seminar by Roger Uttley (ex England player and coach) about youth coaching and he was very clear that coaching youngsters is about helping them to develop as people and providing structured enjoyment and adult guidance, and last of all about getting results on the field. I think there's a parallel with schooling; someone who comes out of school with minimal qualifications but the kind of character to understand effort and working with other people will do a lot better in life than if you just obsess over his exam results.
    And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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      #12
      Originally posted by Paddy View Post
      Education is not just about getting qualifications but also teaching kids to become responsible adults. Years ago it would have been the responsibility of the parents and extended family to teach the kids on how to behave but today it’s left to the schools. The matter is made worse when some schools let the pupils decide what they want to do when in fact they are too young to decide.
      WPS

      "Education" encompasses all aspects of moulding children into responsible adults, and is a job that is beholden upon everyone involved with them. Sadly it seems to be too big a job for many parents, very often single ones, who simultaneously attempt to carry out a role that really requires two, whilst also holding down a job. It is little wonder that they often come up short.
      In many of the worst schools, there seems to be too much emphasis on teaching the children all about their "Rights", and too little effort put into reminding them that along with those rights come a number of "Responsibilities".
      This has been a problem long in the making, and will probably take even longer to sort out. No silver bullets on this one I'm afraid.
      Too much wishy-washy socialist meddling, and now all the chickens are coming home to roost.
      “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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        #13
        Originally posted by AlfredJPruffock View Post
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        Who would be a poor man ? A beggarman - a thief ??


        If he had a rich man in his hand.

        And who would steal the candy-
        from a laughing baby's mouth ?

        If he could take it from the money man.

        Cross-eyed Mary goes jumping in again.
        She signs no contract
        but she always plays the game.
        Thanks for that Mr Tull............
        When freedom comes along, don't PISH in the water supply.....

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          #14
          Originally posted by TestMangler View Post
          Thanks for that Mr Tull............
          Aye TM

          The name's Anderson.

          Last edited by AlfredJPruffock; 11 August 2011, 10:55.

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            #15
            Originally posted by AlfredJPruffock View Post
            Aye TM

            The name's Anderson.

            Would rather have a 'deaths head beltbuckle and double sewn seams' if you don't mind
            When freedom comes along, don't PISH in the water supply.....

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