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Cause of the riots / lootings

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    #31
    The problem is socialism

    Given that the rioters are mainly feral teenage boys. These kids are deprived of a decent education because schools are run and controlled for the benefit of those in power and secondly for the benefit of those who work in them. they are not incentivised to run them for the benefit of the kids themselves. These boys are deprived of sport, in particular team games (rugby for example is a metaphor for how socialism should work). They are deprived of jobs because socialists set themselves up to undermine any sort of enterprise culture. Even initiatives such as the minimum wage ensures that many young boys are kept out of work.
    The first vicious circle is that their parents and single mothers are likewise products of the state system that encourages worklessness and benefit dependency.
    These kids are the product of the state and its warped sense of how it wishes to engineer (rather than serve) society. The state steals, cons and wastes vast amounts of money from the enterprising wealth creators in society creating the other vicious circle of state dependency, poor education and joblessness.
    These young boys have nothing whatsoever to gain by engaging with the syste. This has been their opportunity to display their bitter resentment.

    Of course the socialists will argue that the gap between rich and poor is causing the problem. They are of course right but not in the way they think. The rich have got where they are quite fine by themselves whereas the poor are still poor because they have been so badly let down by the state and its inefficient monopolistic institutions. The left wants the rich to become poor because that is the only way that they can enjoy any sort of credibility.
    Last edited by DodgyAgent; 10 August 2011, 13:59.
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      #32
      Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
      (rugby for example is a metaphor for how socialism should work)
      wot?
      And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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        #33
        Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
        wot?
        It is played by children/men/some women () of all shapes and sizes, all speeds, all abilities. It is the ultimate collective sport that encourages excellence as well as hard graft. Rugby is both a game that is inclusive and encourages individualism to the benefit of the whole team. Surely as a rugby player you can see this logic? it should never have been a middle class sport
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          #34
          Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
          It is played by children/men/some women () of all shapes and sizes, all speeds, all abilities. It is the ultimate collective sport that encourages excellence as well as hard graft. Rugby is both a game that is inclusive and encourages individualism to the benefit of the whole team. Surely as a rugby player you can see this logic? it should never have been a middle class sport
          Yeah, but what's that go to do with socialism? If it was socialist they'd make big guys give the ball away so the little weeds can play with it.
          And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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            #35
            Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
            Yeah, but what's that go to do with socialism? If it was socialist they'd make big guys give the ball away so the little weeds can play with it.
            Socialism should be about collectivism where everyone does their best for the common good.
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              #36
              Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
              Socialism should be about collectivism where everyone does their best for the common good.
              Ah yes, should be indeed, but we both know it doesn't work that way.

              Anyway, personally I think rugby's much nobler than that; it's about beating crap out of the French. Note employment of strangulation technique against fat Frenchman in orange shirt, in avatar.
              Last edited by Mich the Tester; 10 August 2011, 14:19.
              And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                #37
                Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
                It is the ultimate collective sport that encourages excellence as well as hard graft.
                And it also provides a stamina-enhancing outlet for all those uncoordinated types that do not possess the skill to play the far more popular game of football. So a big thumbs-up for rugger...............Huzzah!!!

                Pip pip!!

                Tarquin!

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
                  And it also provides a stamina-enhancing outlet for all those uncoordinated types that do not possess the skill to play the far more popular game of football. So a big thumbs-up for rugger...............Huzzah!!!

                  Pip pip!!

                  Tarquin!

                  To its credit! My school-mate Neil Lamont was a case in point. Excellent flanker, completely useless at soccer.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
                    And it also provides a stamina-enhancing outlet for all those uncoiffured types that do not possess the mullet haircuts to play the far more popular game of football. So a big thumbs-up for rugger...............Huzzah!!!

                    Pip pip!!

                    Tarquin!

                    ftfy

                    what ho!
                    And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
                      ftfy

                      what ho!
                      Touche

                      “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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