Reply to: Cause of the riots / lootings

[Mich the Tester]

Being out of the UK right now, this news is rather confusing. When we get riots in Paris, it's about some issue people care about. But even the BBC didn't seem to have an answer. They mention the killing of an 'innocent' but even they don't suggest this is the real cause, only a factor for the first riot.

Is it simply that people have seen the chance for a bit of anarchy? If so, isn't this rather unusual? Does it underline a general sense of national unrest?

The Dutch morning papers are saying it´s all about a rebellious underclass and that England still has a ´feudal society´, the English are ´class obsessed´ and the youth have no opportunies. Not entirely accurate IMO, especially seeing as the first people in court for looting included a teaching assistant and a graphic designer.

[d000hg]

Being out of the UK right now, this news is rather confusing. When we get riots in Paris, it's about some issue people care about. But even the BBC didn't seem to have an answer. They mention the killing of an 'innocent' but even they don't suggest this is the real cause, only a factor for the first riot.

Is it simply that people have seen the chance for a bit of anarchy? If so, isn't this rather unusual? Does it underline a general sense of national unrest?

[MarillionFan]

What do you make of this car incident where three people got killed?

My guess, and I am guessing is that the car came round the corner, the driver seen a crowd on the street, crapped it and tried to drive through at high speed. I am going to guess the driver was female and it was not a deliberate act.

I heard it was a big burly 6'8'' ex marine who had travelled back from Ireland, was tired and scared of being attacked by looters, drove roung a corner and thought that he saw 3 were-rabbits with spades near the mosque. So he ran them over.

[OwlHoot]

What do you make of this car incident where three people got killed?

My guess, and I am guessing is that the car came round the corner, the driver seen a crowd on the street, crapped it and tried to drive through at high speed. I am going to guess the driver was female and it was not a deliberate act.

Apparently there were four people in the car, and it mounted the pavement and steered towards the three guys at high speed (and the same car had driven past a couple of minutes previously).

[OwlHoot]

They freely admitted they ... even if they were caught the prisons were full so no-one can do "nuffin" to them.

So, I'd say a big reason is the lack of deterent to youths who haven't got a criminal concience.

WHS

[SueEllen]

Dodgy's got a good point though; if nothing else, sport can provide positive male role models for young men, and I have a feeling that's what a lot of the young chavs are missing.

WHS

In places where the youths were/are rioting there are often boxing clubs set up to keep them out of trouble.

It's very hard to train if you have a hangover or are smoking tulip.

[minestrone]

What do you make of this car incident where three people got killed?

My guess, and I am guessing is that the car came round the corner, the driver seen a crowd on the street, crapped it and tried to drive through at high speed. I am going to guess the driver was female and it was not a deliberate act.

[Mich the Tester]

Dodgy's got a good point though; if nothing else, sport can provide positive male role models for young men, and I have a feeling that's what a lot of the young chavs are missing.

[shaunbhoy]

ftfy

what ho!

Touche

[Mich the Tester]

And it also provides a stamina-enhancing outlet for all those uncoiffured types that do not possess the mullet haircuts to play the far more popular game of football. So a big thumbs-up for rugger...............Huzzah!!!

Pip pip!!

Tarquin!

ftfy

what ho!

[Doggy Styles]

And it also provides a stamina-enhancing outlet for all those uncoordinated types that do not possess the skill to play the far more popular game of football. So a big thumbs-up for rugger...............Huzzah!!!

Pip pip!!

Tarquin!

To its credit! My school-mate Neil Lamont was a case in point. Excellent flanker, completely useless at soccer.

[shaunbhoy]

It is the ultimate collective sport that encourages excellence as well as hard graft.

And it also provides a stamina-enhancing outlet for all those uncoordinated types that do not possess the skill to play the far more popular game of football. So a big thumbs-up for rugger...............Huzzah!!!

Pip pip!!

Tarquin!

[Mich the Tester]

Socialism should be about collectivism where everyone does their best for the common good.

Ah yes, should be indeed, but we both know it doesn't work that way.

Anyway, personally I think rugby's much nobler than that; it's about beating crap out of the French. Note employment of strangulation technique against fat Frenchman in orange shirt, in avatar.

[DodgyAgent]

Yeah, but what's that go to do with socialism? If it was socialist they'd make big guys give the ball away so the little weeds can play with it.

Socialism should be about collectivism where everyone does their best for the common good.

[Mich the Tester]

It is played by children/men/some women () of all shapes and sizes, all speeds, all abilities. It is the ultimate collective sport that encourages excellence as well as hard graft. Rugby is both a game that is inclusive and encourages individualism to the benefit of the whole team. Surely as a rugby player you can see this logic? it should never have been a middle class sport

Yeah, but what's that go to do with socialism? If it was socialist they'd make big guys give the ball away so the little weeds can play with it.