Cameron's response

[PAH]

I'll wager it's an innocent shop owner coming out of their shop with some stock they're trying to keep safe at home.

Safest place tonight is at home watching it on live news feed.

[Doggy Styles]

Because he refused to give the order to tell the Met Police to batter the thieving ******* little tulips on the first up rising.

If they'd done that the criminals would have a "cause".

At that time the police did not know that copycat riots would spring up elsewhere.

It's not an easy decision to take. Bad as the situation has become, what everyone wants to avoid is making it worse, i.e. a protracted all-out war between the police and vigilantes on one side, and the yob culture of the whole nation with a so-called "cause" on the other. It's a tricky balancing act.

[PAH]

Yeah, let it burn itself out. They can call it quantitative easing of tat into the hands of the scum-class.

[DimPrawn]

Yeah, let it burn itself out. They can call it quantitative easing of tat into the hands of the scum-class.

Some of the Labour MP's are saying this is a benefit to the economy, more jobs rebuilding London.

However,

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[PAH]

Yeah, saw some 'community leaders' expressing concern that the scum are ripping up their own communities. Saw a shot of a playground rocking horse that had been ripped up and dumped in the middle of a road.

I guess the 'community leaders' would prefer the scum go and tear up someone else's neighbourhood.

[SueEllen]

2 minutes It's the Met. Oh, it'll probably be an innocent bystander too. Like a newsagent or a Brazilian electrician.

Knowing the Met it will be one of the little rioting tulips mother's telling her son/daughter to get the **** home now.

[MrRobin]

"Picture by picture" these criminals are being arrested, and they will not let "phoney" concerns about publishing CCTV images breaching human rights get in the way, he says

[PAH]

Hopefully this will lead to a rebalancing of human rights so they protect the innocent as much as the guilty, without leading to a police state where rights are further eroded 'for the greater good'.

Maybe I'm too cynical for everyday life, but I get the feeling the initial poor response from the coppers in clamping down (e.g. last night in Manchester) is to further their cause against police cuts.

The bit of live news I caught last night showed the cops in central Manchester forming lines across streets but allowing the looters to run down back streets and onto other areas. It was like they didn't really want to get stuck in and box them off. They were chasing them around for hours.

Were they really so under-manned, or was it a strategy to get more sympathy from those now calling for a change in the decision to cut their numbers?

[shaunbhoy]

Were they really so under-manned, or was it a strategy to get more sympathy from those now calling for a change in the decision to cut their numbers?

Say what you like about numbers being cut, but if you ever have cause (as I regularly do) to try and get parked anywhere within a Police HQ you will soon see that they are an extremely "fat" organisation. And as for their subsidised canteen queues, there were smaller ones for the lifeboats on the Titanic!

[Doggy Styles]

Hopefully this will lead to a rebalancing of human rights so they protect the innocent as much as the guilty, without leading to a police state where rights are further eroded 'for the greater good'.

Maybe I'm too cynical for everyday life, but I get the feeling the initial poor response from the coppers in clamping down (e.g. last night in Manchester) is to further their cause against police cuts.

The bit of live news I caught last night showed the cops in central Manchester forming lines across streets but allowing the looters to run down back streets and onto other areas. It was like they didn't really want to get stuck in and box them off. They were chasing them around for hours.

Were they really so under-manned, or was it a strategy to get more sympathy from those now calling for a change in the decision to cut their numbers?

Are pictures of lines of police not engaging going to get them a lot of sympathy re police cuts?

Maybe if they weren't there in the first place, or there was one copper on his own.