Aspergers

[doodab]

BTW I wouldn't admit you had anything like bipolar disorder when you commit a violent crime unless you want to spend an indeterminate length of time in a secure mental hospital.

I don't plan on committing a violent crime TBH, but thank's for the tip

[minestrone]

Apparently in casualty on a Saturday night you know the ailment of the patient on Casualty by about 10 o'clock as you get streams of people presenting with the same symptoms.

"Subarachnoid hemorrhage?"

"Yes, I know I have it"

"Been watching much TV tonight?"

[darrenb]

It's real enough. One of my sons has it.

He takes everyone as the same. He will trust a door to door salesman as much as he trusts me. He just can't understand that people deceive and manipulate him just because they can.

I can quite understand how an Aspergers child could get talked into the position where they are the front for illegal acts, in fact they would probably be the ones who came up with the way of doing it to help out a person who they believe has been friendly to them. The way my son thinks and visualises the world is so different from how I do that he often finds ways around rules or problems that he encounters that would never have occurred to a non Aspergers child.

Has it occurred to you that WE are the abnormal ones? Imagine a world populated by people just like your son (i.e., minus the manipulators). No wars, no economic crises, just steady technological progress and sharing of the wealth.

[doodab]

Has it occurred to you that WE are the abnormal ones? Imagine a world populated by people just like your son (i.e., minus the manipulators). No wars, no economic crises, just steady technological progress and sharing of the wealth.

Game theory more or less dictates that such a situation would be unstable. Even the slightest tendency to cheat would have massive rewards for the individual so such behavior would evolve again quickly.

[Fred Bloggs]

Fred. I can accept the fact that there is a condition, what I cannot accept is yours and prcs point that the person has to be coerced by someone else to do the crime and therefore they are not responsible.

It seems that by saying someone has Aspergers than it means that they are not responsible. It is also being stated that they cannot tell the difference between right and wrong and that if they do something wrong they have been coerced.

I think in both cases, both hackers did it for their own reasons. Aspergers is not a
defence or excuse
for mitigation.

I can see your point, possible over playing of the autism card does no good at all for the innocent victim in a genuine case of malicious coercion. Whether this is such as case I do not know. It is a fine line.

[Mason Boyne]

OK. Who else has got it?

First Gary, now this fella Hack charge teen Cleary 'is autistic' | The Sun |News

Seems a bloody good way to try and get out of situations. I think I may go round saying I'm Bipolar so I can get away with lamping people in pubs and being abusive at work.

I reckon he's just another geeky developer who sits in his bedroom at night watching porn.

Lot of tosh if you if ask me. Or is it?

Who the **** was asking you?

[MarillionFan]

Who the **** was asking you?

**** off Churchill.

[MarillionFan]

I can see your point, possible over playing of the autism card does no good at all for the innocent victim in a genuine case of malicious coercion. Whether this is such as case I do not know. It is a fine line.

In the second case, the guy was hosting a Lulzsec(? Can't be bothered to check that) chatroom server. He was diagnosed as having Aspergers after he was arrested and they carried out some tests, otherwise it was said he was just a little odd. I think the headlines do no justice to other sufferers of such disorders.

[Fred Bloggs]

In the second case, the guy was hosting a Lulzsec(? Can't be bothered to check that) chatroom server. He was diagnosed as having Aspergers after he was arrested and they carried out some tests, otherwise it was said he was just a little odd. I think the headlines do no justice to other sufferers of such disorders.

I agree with the last part of your post 100%. I should think that groups such as that have a higher than in the population in general chance
of attracting Aspergers sufferers. It then follows that those who would seek to take advantage of such a situation would be well aware of that fact. It is not uncommon at all for Asperger sufferers to be diagnosed very late in life, or even never. We were highly aware of the "a bit odd" behaviour at an early age and a diagnosis was confirmed at age ~6. Thankfully, for our child, help was given via school regarding coping with Asperger traits. This is pretty unusual though, I believe, even today with much higher general awareness of the condition.

[Old Greg]

Has it occurred to you that WE are the abnormal ones? Imagine a world populated by people just like your son (i.e., minus the manipulators). No wars, no economic crises, just steady technological progress and sharing of the wealth.

I think this is why the Aspergers community coined the term 'neurotypical': Neurotypical - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The question of guilt and mitigation comes down to an extent to 'mens rea' (guilty mind): Mens rea - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . 'Actus reus' (guilty act) is not sufficient. IANAL - obviously.