Aspergers

[SizeZero]

How much do you get PRC1964 based upon your child's diagnosis?

I'm sure you're asking 'how much heartache', and the answer is 'more than you can imagine'. My son's condition is different - he has physical brain damage to the frontal lobe - but his symptoms are the same.

In the past, children like this would have been classed as 'innocents', and as they grew older, they were labelled 'simple', or by nasty-minded people, 'the village idiot'. They can't make real friendships despite talking to everyone, and they become grateful for anyone who shows interest in them with no concept there could be an ulterior motive. They can be strung along and it's incredibly hard to keep them on the right track. I'm not sure Steinbeck's book 'Of mice and men' is the best example to use, but if you can appreciate the struggle and sacrifices that George makes to keep Lennie out of trouble, you get an inkling.

My son receives additional help from a rehabilitation clinic for learning to compensate for his inability to plan/structure his work/day/life, in the hope that he can find and keep a job when he leaves college; and an amount paid to the college directly for a teaching assistant to give him extra help. I hope that answers your question of 'how much we get'.

One small story. A few weeks ago we went to sign up our son onto a course which might suit him better, as recommended by the rehabilitation neuro-psych. We started to discuss his lack of planning ability with the lady doing the interview, and she started saying - get a diary, whats the problem? I told her he had diaries and either didn't make entries or misplaced them - and she started ranting and raving at him about how hard can it possibly be, and that he shouldnt be so lazy with his note taking. We both stared at her, jaws on the floor (this course was recommended to us) and I asked her, 'If my son was here in a wheelchair, would you tell him to stop being lazy, just get up and walk - it's easy because everyone else does it?'

Just because you cannot see someone's disability does not mean it doesn't exist and have a real impact on his or her lifestyle, and that of his/her nearest and dearest.

[mudskipper]

Fred. I can accept the fact that there is a condition, what I cannot accept is yours and prcs point that the person has to be coerced by someone else to do the crime and therefore they are not responsible.

It seems that by saying someone has Aspergers than it means that they are not responsible. It is also being stated that they cannot tell the difference between right and wrong and that if they do something wrong they have been coerced.

I think in both cases, both hackers did it for their own reasons. Aspergers is not a
defence or excuse
for mitigation.

I don't think that's what's being said. I think the point is that, by 'befriending' someone with Aspergers, it is easy to coerce them into doing something wrong, and that possibility should be considered.

[MarillionFan]

I don't think that's what's being said. I think the point is that, by 'befriending' someone with Aspergers, it is easy to coerce them into doing something wrong, and that possibility should be considered.

It seems to be that in every case (and including some reponses here) is that being coerced is the primary defence if the person has Aspergers. Being easily led cannot be a primary defence.

[mudskipper]

It seems to be that in every case (and including some reponses here) is that being coerced is the primary defence if the person has Aspergers. Being easily led cannot be a primary defence.

If the person had a more visible mental handicap, e.g. getting a Downs Syndrome adult to go shoplifting for you, would you have the same view? Aspergers is more 'confusing' in that the sufferer can be academically bright, but in social awareness more like a young child.

[MarillionFan]

If the person had a more visible mental handicap, e.g. getting a Downs Syndrome adult to go shoplifting for you, would you have the same view? Aspergers is more 'confusing' in that the sufferer can be academically bright, but in social awareness more like a young child.

Have you ever seen the Lawnmower Man. I rest my case for the prosecution.

[TestMangler]

Have you ever seen the Lawnmower Man. I rest my case for the prosecution.

My Mrs works with autistic children. To make light of it and accuse someone who has a condition like that of doing it 'for convenience' or using it as an excuse to get away with things, to be honest, makes you the biggest prickiest of pricks.

Sometimes MF, you can be quite funny and entertaining. Other times you act like a bit of a knob. Either way, it's usually quite entertaining.

On this occasion, you are being a contemptable tossbag and a good kick in the nuts with a size 97 cement boot would be too good for you.

Next time you look at your own kids (assuming you ever look at them), then thank your lucky stars that they're happy and healthy and not afflicted with something like Aspbergers.

Now F.O.A.D.

[MarillionFan]

My Mrs works with autistic children. To make light of it and accuse someone who has a condition like that of doing it 'for convenience' or using it as an excuse to get away with things, to be honest, makes you the biggest prickiest of pricks.

Sometimes MF, you can be quite funny and entertaining. Other times you act like a bit of a knob. Either way, it's usually quite entertaining.

On this occasion, you are being a contemptable tossbag and a good kick in the nuts with a size 97 cement boot would be too good for you.

Next time you look at your own kids (assuming you ever look at them), then thank your lucky stars that they're happy and healthy and not afflicted with something like Aspbergers.

Now F.O.A.D.

Listen to me Mangler, you self pontificating arse wipe, if you cannot see the point of the argument you are even more of a f**king twat than most of your posts appear to point to.

The point concerning both individuals and the comment around the Lawnmower man pertains to the fact that IRL they have a handicap and in anonymous cyberspace where interaction is more logical / more black and white then that isn't a handicap but appears to be beneficial. On that basis, where these autistic kids become keyboard warriors then it can be argued that they are in full control not someone's stooge and therefore fully responsible for their actions.

Now do me a favour and seriously f**k off.

[TestMangler]

Listen to me Mangler, you self pontificating arse wipe, if you cannot see the point of the argument you are even more of a f**king twat than most of your posts appear to point to.

The point concerning both individuals and the comment around the Lawnmower man pertains to the fact that IRL they have a handicap and in anonymous cyberspace where interaction is more logical / more black and white then that isn't a handicap but appears to be beneficial. On that basis, where these autistic kids become keyboard warriors then it can be argued that they are in full control not someone's stooge and therefore fully responsible for their actions.

Now do me a favour and seriously f**k off.

I can only re-itterate what I told you before. You are a C U N T. Now, you f**k off.

[MarillionFan]

I can only re-itterate what I told you before. You are a C U N T. Now, you f**k off.

I'm going to put that down to a mental handicap.

[TestMangler]

I'm going to put that down to a mental handicap.

Well, if you'd admitted to it earlier, people would have made allowances for you.

Probably the first sign was the time you pissed your pants when confronted by a couple of thirteen year olds