Airbus humps Boeing into submission at Paris airshow

[gingerjedi]

Ah yes, British WasteOfSpace as it's now commonly become known among the engineering fraternity. Ever since Airbus pulled the jollys out 10 years ago we left. You know they used to have their own private A320 flying engineers over to Toulouse on a daily basis, business class seats, it was fantastic you felt quite important.

They're decommissioning the runway next year so no chance of the jolly’s ever coming back let alone any ramp up of volume manufacturing.

On the other hand GKN have invested heavily in composite technologies so the high tech stuff will be there for some time yet.

[PAH]

Pilot error all the way.

A pilot is only as good as the information he receives.

Airbus may as well go one step further and have the planes flyable remotely if the pilots in situ are really the weak link.

[gingerjedi]

A pilot is only as good as the information he receives.

Airbus may as well go one step further and have the planes flyable remotely if the pilots in situ are really the weak link.

Why stop there?

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[scooterscot]

A pilot is only as good as the information he receives.

Your thinking a bigger window? "Look out! Trees!!"

[zara_backdog]

All we need now is a bigger slice of the work from the Frogs. You'd think that with a chocolate £ melting fast that UK manufacturing would be very attractive to Airbus, more than ever before.

Engine contol system is designed in the UK so that's something I suppose - but struggling to get the electonic engineers

[scooterscot]

Engine contol system is designed in the UK so that's something I suppose - but struggling to get the electonic engineers

Yes but goodrich an american company so the profits don't stay in the UK.

[PAH]

Your thinking a bigger window? "Look out! Trees!!"

I'm thinking an amalgamation of mechanical and electronic instruments, so if the electronics start playing up (as seem to have happened in both Airbus crashes I mentioned) the pilot can quickly press the 'sod off' button and take over using the old fashion methods. The problem then becomes how soon does the pilot realise the electronics are telling porkies and decide to take full control themself.

Though maybe it's more cost effective to go the way they are and pay out compensation when it all goes engines up. Assuming they can't blame it on the (probably) dead pilot.

[scooterscot]

I'm thinking an amalgamation of mechanical and electronic instruments, so if the electronics start playing up (as seem to have happened in both Airbus crashes I mentioned) the pilot can quickly press the 'sod off' button and take over using the old fashion methods. The problem then becomes how soon does the pilot realise the electronics are telling porkies and decide to take full control themself.

You've left yourself wide open for ridicule and ignorance of aviation control systems.

If you really believe the pilots do not have ultimate control of the aircraft, I tell you now no pilot would set foot on the flight deck.

Risk of an event at an airshow is always greater than reality because pilots are under more pressure to demonstrate A/C capabilities. Also the manoeuvres on display were very untypical of day to day operations, increasing risk. Like F1 drivers, the analysis that goes into keeping drivers alive and safe is amazing as full well the owners know an event is that much more likely than for ordinary road users.

[PAH]

You've left yourself wide open for ridicule and ignorance of aviation control systems.