Public sector strikes

[milanbenes]

expat,

go home and have a lie down

don't worry about this lot, they'll be complaining because
the sun is shining tomorrow

Milan.

[Dundeegeorge]

If there is no contract between the gov and me

What is at issue is the contract of employment. It is a contract, with specific terms.

There is no "contract between yourself and the government" for the return on paying taxes.

Quite simple really.

Not even a notional contract, then the money the gov take me from is stolen.

[expat]

Not even a notional contract, then the money the gov take me from is stolen.

Tax, laddie, tax. Not, repeat not, a payment on a contract. When you pay tax you are making a contribution, not a purchase.

[expat]

expat,

go home and have a lie down

don't worry about this lot, they'll be complaining because
the sun is shining tomorrow

Milan.

It pains me to admit it but you're quite right, and wise too.

[The Lone Gunman]

Tax, laddie, tax. Not, repeat not, a payment on a contract. When you pay tax you are making a contribution, not a purchase.

So its more of a protection racket, demending money with menaces sort of thing then?

[Dundeegeorge]

Hogwash

Tax, laddie, tax. Not, repeat not, a payment on a contract. When you pay tax you are making a contribution, not a purchase.

You are the chancellor of the exchequer and I owe you £5.
The reason that people pay tax is because of this perceived notional contract. Why else would we pay council tax if we did not expect to receive services for it? Why else would we pay income tax and ni?

[threaded]

So its more of a protection racket, demending money with menaces sort of thing then?

Yes, practically what **** said at his first party conference.

**** is left as an exercise for the reader.

threaded in "lemonade <-- that's a clue" mode

[janey]

What these "clowns" are striking for is to have their agreements honoured. They make the quite reasonable point that, when you join local government, the retirement benefits are an essential part of the package: part of the reason why you accept lower rates of pay than the private sector.

Whether or not the package is overly generous, is not the point: a deal was made, and the unions want it to be kept for existing workers, who made that deal.

Wish I could say I'm stunned that a load of people on this board would prefer to renege on the deal if there was a few quid in it for them.

PMSL

both my parents (ex-local government workers) have both the same as this, minus teh contractor rant that is

[DimPrawn]

expat,

go home and have a lie down

don't worry about this lot, they'll be complaining because
the sun is shining tomorrow

Milan.

Oh FFS now the sun is going to shine? Where will the dishonesty of this government and the lies of the BBC ever end?

[milanbenes]

Dim,

when are you off to your viller in Cyprus ?

Milan.