Originally posted by Dundeegeorge
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Bugger it, let's do away with any sort of criminal justice system, presumtion of innocence and human rights and head straight into a police state ... wait a minute isn't that how the enemy wants things?
If they're guilty they'd get found guilty in a court of law - the punishment part is debatable (Death/life whatever) and if state secrets are the issue then I'm sure there is a way round it.
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Originally posted by AtWA lot of prisoners in XRay were (allegedly) captured after direct fights like one in Tora Bora.
Human Rights lawyers have strong evidence that a substantial number of detainees are simply those who were unlucky enough to be "denounced" by their neighbours in return for the reward money and have no connection to Al-Quaida or any other terrorist organisation."Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.Comment
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Originally posted by DaveBHuman Rights lawyers have strong evidence that a substantial number of detainees are simply those who were unlucky enough to be "denounced" by their neighbours in return for the reward money and have no connection to Al-Quaida or any other terrorist organisation.
Simple matter of fact is that despite having so many people tortured there for years no results were achieved whatsoever - Osama is still a large and amazingly US troops were cut in Afganistan.
The kind of damage XRay did to American ideals in particular and democracy in general is just WAY too high. And lets not forget here - Americans won their freedom by not exactly engaging the British in open fight with uniforms clearly marked. People have implicit right to defend their country by any means necessary and if the occupier does not like it then it should not be occupying the country in the first place.Comment
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