Chavs in Britain

[sasguru]

You want me to do your work? Why not instead back up your assertion with figures?

I'll back up the youth unemployed part that I referred to, with the reason for the correlation with mass immigration left as an exercise.



Almost a million 16 to 24 year old's out of work, and still climbing.

It appears to be a Europe wide problem though by the looks of it:
Europe grapples with youth unemployment - CNN.com

though:

You really are a moron.
The youth unemployment figures correlate with the onset of the credit crunch.
Funny how youth unemployment is smaller in Germany where exports are booming.
"As an exercise" I leave you to find a job.

HTH

[DimPrawn]

Only a moron?

Not a village idiot or cretin?

[sasguru]

Only a moron?

Not a village idiot or cretin?

Those too.

[TimberWolf]

You really are a moron.
The youth unemployment figures correlate with the onset of the credit crunch.
Funny how youth unemployment is smaller in Germany where exports are booming.
"As an exercise" I leave you to find a job.

HTH

The fact is we have more young people than we have jobs for young people. Do you really believe mass immigration of the scale we have had in the UK has had no great effect on current unemployment figures?

[TykeMerc]

The fact is we have more young people than we have jobs for young people. Do you really believe mass immigration of the scale we have had in the UK has had no great effect on current unemployment figures?

I have no doubt that immigration is a factor, probably a significant one.

I'm of the opinion that bigger factors are the culture of entitlement, bone idleness and benefits.
My eldest son is a second year student and only 1 of his friends from the same school year that didn't go to Uni has had any employment, the rest genuinely don't try and don't want to try. Odds are given the chance some of them will live off benefits their entire lives as they see it as a real choice.

Edited :- Bits of one line made no sense, I was interrupted by a work call while writing the post.

[minestrone]

I used to live in an area with loads of posh chavs, they may have had a rich dad which got them cars and clothes but in the end they got into their 20s without an education, struggled and most are now staying in tulip houses in tulip areas.

Money often has little to do with it, there is a predisposition in this country not to work or get an education, that goes form the top to the bottom.

[sasguru]

The fact is we have more young people than we have jobs for young people. Do you really believe mass immigration of the scale we have had in the UK has had no great effect on current unemployment figures?

1 in 9 people in Britain born overseas (total no of all ages including naturalised Britons and Eastern Europeans) = 11.%
Say 60% of these are 16-24 (that's generous, but immigrants tend to have a younger profile)
so 16-24 y/o immigrants comprise 6.6% of the population.

One in nine people who live in UK born abroad - Home News, UK - The Independent


But unemployment rate of 16-24 year olds = 12.6%

BBC NEWS | Education | England youth drop-out rate rises


So it doesn't tally. Consider the fact that there must be some immigrant businesses employing locals i.e. its not a zero-sum game and your assertion is crap

HTH

[TimberWolf]

I have no doubt that immigration is a factor, probably a significant one.

I'm of the opinion that a bigger factor is the culture of entitlement, bone idleness and benefits is a bigger contributor.
My eldest son is a second year student and only 1 of his friends from the same school year that didn't go to Uni has had any employment, the rest genuinely don't try and don't want to try. Odds are given the chance some of them will live off benefits their entire lives as they see it as a real choice.

True, but the latter factors you mention may also be connected with the recent mass immigration wave, as it's lowered salaries to the point where working is little better, if not worse, than not working. Life's easier if you can take savings away and spend them abroad. It''ll be interesting to see how this shakes out.

[TimberWolf]

1 in 9 people in Britain born overseas (total no of all ages including naturalised Britons and Eastern Europeans) = 11.%
Say 60% of these are 16-24 (that's generous, but immigrants tend to have a younger profile)
so 16-24 y/o immigrants comprise 6.6% of the population.

One in nine people who live in UK born abroad - Home News, UK - The Independent


But unemployment rate of 16-24 year olds = 12.6%

BBC NEWS | Education | England youth drop-out rate rises


So it doesn't tally. Consider the fact that there must be some immigrant businesses employing locals i.e. its not a zero-sum game and your assertion is crap

HTH

So what you're trying to say is that because you estimate the percentage of young immigrants to be 6.6% that youth unemployment should be 6.6% rather than 12.6%. You really are a cretin.

[DimPrawn]

So what you're trying to say is that because you estimate the percentage of young immigrants to be 6.6% that youth unemployment should be 6.6% rather than 12.6%. You really are a cretin.

WHS.

And a village idiot AND a moron.

HTH