Cars again

[DimPrawn]

If they're so cool, why are so many of them driven by fat middle aged blokes that look like Ron Jeremy and wear golf sweaters in public?

Cos their the ones wiv all the money?

[Mich the Tester]

Cos their the ones wiv new money?

ftfy

[Bagpuss]

Er indoors says my Arfur Daley mobile has got to go. I am having trouble finding anything that suits us both.

Requirements - needs to be able to accomodate two adults and car seat for a three year old (and the three year old).

Should be more use in the conditions if we get any more snow but doesn't need to be 4wd.

My requirements -
Excellent ride, reasonably brisk, nice to drive. Must have xenon(HID) headlights and heated seats. Proper ipod integration or ability to replace the stereo fairly easily.
Not a BMW.

Her requirements -
Auto trans (I can probably get around this), heated seats
Not a Seat, Skoda or Mazda (or probably Toyota or Honda if seh thinks about it)
Better fuel economy than her Disco 3
Not embarrasing for her to turn up at work in
Doesn't have a new random fault every week like my current Jag.
Less than 4 years old



Budget - to about 19K on a good day.

Volvo XC90, classy spacious, understated, massive discounts on new, although nearly new would be your budget
Mercedes C class, 15% discounts to be had

If you aren't a brand snob the top end fords have BMW build quality these days in terms of materials.
Ford Mondeo Turbo diesel Titanium
Ford S-Max Turbo diesel Titanium , 60 plate for circa 17k

PS your wife is ruling out some makes that top the reliability surveys

[Spacecadet]

A Mazda 6 Estate
Only fails on one of your specs

[Bagpuss]

screw budget and mpg considerations - in 5 years you can sell it for more than you pay today because it is a future classic.

BOOMED!!!!!!

Unfortunately though nobody buys a Porsche through a private sale. Therefore the old "they are like money in the bank" only appears to be true when you look at those with large dealer margin in the Porsche garage. The ones they stole off the private owner who couldn't sell it to anyone but them.

[DimPrawn]

You said:

My requirements -
Excellent ride, reasonably brisk, nice to drive. Must have xenon(HID) headlights and heated seats. Proper ipod integration or ability to replace the stereo fairly easily.
Not a BMW.

Her requirements -
Auto trans (I can probably get around this), heated seats
Not a Seat, Skoda or Mazda (or probably Toyota or Honda if seh thinks about it)
Better fuel economy than her Disco 3
Not embarrasing for her to turn up at work in
Doesn't have a new random fault every week like my current Jag.
Less than 4 years old

Okay, you want good ride comfort, so that's either a luxury saloon (not a sporty version) or a luxury 4x4.
You want better fuel economy, so that's either a hybrid or a diesel.
Not embarrasing, so no Skodas or cheap Jap/Malaysian/Korean crap.
Four seats and probably four doors.
Not BMW.
Good in snow if possible (that removes all rear wheel drive cars without winter tyres)


Audi Q5
Lexus RX 400h (e.g. Lexus Leicester : RX ESTATE 400h 3.3 SE 5dr CVT Auto [Navigator])
Merc ML ( e.g. Mercedes-Benz of Leeds : MERCEDES-BENZ M CLASS ML280 CDI Sport 5dr Tip Auto)

[Peoplesoft bloke]

PeoplesoftBloke,

question, do you peoplesoft people now have oracle email addresses ?

is anybody buying peoplesoft products these days ?

Milan.

People who still work there have Oracle e-mail addresses

Yes organisations are buying - mainly upgrades and extra modules for existing customers, but there's plenty of work around.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Those Lexus are tiny inside. Once the kiddy got older than 3 they'd struggle. And that website says 31mpg. I couldn't afford the fuel for that. My thoroughly unglamorous (but huge inside space) Skoda Superb 2.5TDi does just over 48mpg on my weekly commute to/from Surrey.

Skoda Superb was on the list until her indoors stuck her oar in - she's the brand snob not me (although I don't want a BMW so maybe I am a snob as they are so common).

[DimPrawn]

Or a VW Tiguan

Or a Ford Kuga (4wd version)

[Halo Jones]

It's a bit like when adults tell left handed or ginger children that they're "special".

But they are "Spethal"