FFS Tony Blair

[d000hg]

A program to make WMDs doesn't mean they have any (yet). Is that what you meant?

[AlfredJPruffock]

A program to make WMDs doesn't mean they have any (yet). Is that what you meant?

Yes it was Saddams intent to have them - as proven by his Bio and Chemo arsenal prior to 90 war .

His aims were frustrated by the hard work of many years of the UN weapon inspectors - given the chance again in a future point in time I have a little doubt he would have acquired WMDs once more.

[RichardCranium]

Yes it was Saddams intent to have them - as proven by his Bio and Chemo arsenal prior to 90 war .

His aims were frustrated by many years of the UN weapon inspectors - given the chance again in a future point in time I have a little doubt he would have acquired WMDs once more.

Your logic does not stand up.

We could argue whether Iraq's use of Mustard Gas, VX gas and the like by artillery shell bombardment counts as WMD. If it is, then what about Iran's? Both Iraq and Iran were using those against each other in the Iraq-Iran War. Also Sri Lanka used them against the Tamils and we should be worrying about their possession by Syria, North Korea, Albania, India, Libya, Russia and the USA, all of whom have them. Plus another half dozen probables including Egypt, Burma, Japan and Israel.

The WMDs thing was an excuse. And you've said yourself they didn't have them and none would be found after the 2nd Gulf war.

If the reason for invading Iraq was their perceived desire to possess indisputable WMDs such as nuclear weapons, then there is a VERY long list of countries we should be invading, even if we limit to those with a record of human rights abuses that already have them.

So when does the invasion of Israel, North Korea and China begin?

[d000hg]

So because we don't invade all countries who meet some criteria (ignoring if those criteria are valid), that automatically makes invading any of them wrong?

[AlfredJPruffock]

If the reason for invading Iraq was their perceived desire to possess indisputable WMDs such as nuclear weapons

It was not that alone - we are talking about a Leader that unleashed a 10 year war on its peaceful neighbors in Iran - invaded Kuwait - massacred Kurds with chemical weapons - then tried to ignite the first gulf war into ww3 by targeting Israel - civilian targets not military- with Skuds .

His environmental destruction of the Oil Fields and the Southern Marshlands of Iraq- the persecution of the Shias.

... to contemplate a leader with such disregard for not only his neighbors but the terrible suffering he inflicted on his own people over decades through warfare - ruinous sanctions and defiance of the International community - could we risk the prospect of Saddam satisfying his WMD ambitions ?

[Freamon]

If the reason for invading Iraq was their perceived desire to possess indisputable WMDs such as nuclear weapons, then there is a VERY long list of countries we should be invading, even if we limit to those with a record of human rights abuses that already have them.

So when does the invasion of Israel, North Korea and China begin?

When they find oil under them?

[AlfredJPruffock]

When they find oil under them?

Some would add - when they change the currency to sell their Oil froim the US Petro-Dollar to the Euro - or any other currency for that matter.

For the US to lose the position as host to the Global Petro-Dollar would have been akin to an economic WMD as Saddam found ultimately to his cost.

[Doggy Styles]

Given Saddam's dislike of islamic fundamerntalism, and both Iran and Al Quaeda in particular, I think we dropped a strategic bollock by getting rid of him.

Especially as he was not a danger to anyone we didn't want him to be, because of our weapons inspectors and no-fly zones, which were both far cheaper than the invasion and subsequent 'occupation'.

[Freamon]

Some would add - when they change the currency to sell their Oil froim the US Petro-Dollar to the Euro - or any other currency for that matter.

For the US to lose the position as host to the Global Petro-Dollar would have been akin to an economic WMD as Saddam found ultimately to his cost.

I disagree. Oil is already priced in many currencies and sold in many currencies. See:

Mish's Global Economic Trend Analysis Financial Discussion Blog: Oil Pricing Unit Red Herring