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    #31
    Originally posted by Alf W View Post
    First up, the current global financial cock-up is not a 'Labour legacy' it's a legacy brought about by greedy, predominantly American, banks.

    Whilst not denying that Labour were wasteful handing out millions of public sector money to their chums at the big consulting firms, the Tories are using the current situation as an excuse to run riot with their more hateful policies of slashing spending on health, education and social welfare.
    1. Labour could have put in place regulation to control the banks rather than cosying up to them

    2. Labour (Brown in particular) was guilty of believing in the complete nonsensical bollux that "boom and bust" was abolished forever and therefore he could count on a growing revenue stream for ever. While excusable in a 21 y/o economics undergrad, for a chancellor of the UK to believe and act as such is too stupid for words.

    3. Anyone who has had dealings withe public sector (whether it be the NHS, council, courts, unemployment office) can see the massive inefficiency that exists.

    4. The NHS needs complete reform before it bankrupts the country. Its own website trumpets the fact that its the 3rd biggest employer in the world (after the Chinese army and Indian railways) without asking whether this is appropriate for a medium sized European country.
    And we have to ask ourselves why our health system has worse outcomes than almost any you care to name in Western Europe.

    I'm not a rabid right-wing Tory but I think you non-analytical ideological lefties are just as moronic as the braying thick Tories of the home counties.
    Hard Brexit now!
    #prayfornodeal

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      #32
      Originally posted by sasguru View Post

      1. Labour could have put in place regulation to control the banks rather than cosying up to them

      2. Labour (Brown in particular) was guilty of believing in the complete nonsensical bollux that "boom and bust" was abolished forever and therefore he could count on a growing revenue stream for ever. While excusable in a 21 y/o economics undergrad, for a chancellor of the UK to believe and act as such is too stupid for words.

      3. Anyone who has had dealings withe public sector (whether it be the NHS, council, courts, unemployment office) can see the massive inefficiency that exists.

      4. The NHS needs complete reform before it bankrupts the country. Its own website trumpets the fact that its the 3rd biggest employer in the world (after the Chinese army and Indian railways) without asking whether this is appropriate for a medium sized European country.
      And we have to ask ourselves why our health system has worse outcomes than almost any you care to name in Western Europe.

      I'm not a rabid right-wing Tory but I think you non-analytical ideological lefties are just as moronic as the braying thick Tories of the home counties.
      WHS
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        #33
        Originally posted by sasguru View Post
        1. Labour could have put in place regulation to control the banks rather than cosying up to them
        Or even left it as it was, with the BoE taking full responsibility, and not dividing it among three bodies who didn't know what each other were supposed to be doing.
        Originally posted by sasguru View Post
        2. Labour (Brown in particular) was guilty of believing in the complete nonsensical bollux that "boom and bust" was abolished forever and therefore he could count on a growing revenue stream for ever. While excusable in a 21 y/o economics undergrad, for a chancellor of the UK to believe and act as such is too stupid for words.
        WSGS
        Originally posted by sasguru View Post
        3. Anyone who has had dealings withe public sector (whether it be the NHS, council, courts, unemployment office) can see the massive inefficiency that exists.
        Only if they have ever seen how things are done outside the public sector. Those that only know public sector won't know any different.
        Originally posted by sasguru View Post
        4. The NHS needs complete reform before it bankrupts the country. Its own website trumpets the fact that its the 3rd biggest employer in the world (after the Chinese army and Indian railways) without asking whether this is appropriate for a medium sized European country.
        This was and still is the Labour measure of success in a department - boasting about how much they are spending on it.

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