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    #11
    Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
    It happens.

    But then I might retort, politicians should be made to bare the same responsibilities.

    Engineer = 100's of lives lost.

    Blair and Bush = I've lost count.
    Yeah but engineers make the tanks, guns, missiles so its their fault also, fecking engineers worse that Nazis

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      #12
      Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
      The media coverage this one has been given you'd think it's doom of epic proportions. Engines fail all the time from all manufactures, changes are you've been on a plane with a failure and never knew about it.

      GEC I reckon have around 20 - 30 engine in flight shut downs everyday.
      They don't ground their entire fleet though, or leave holes in their aircarft.

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        #13
        Originally posted by kandr View Post
        Err they get paid, and their mistakes could have killed hundreds, they should be up at court for attempted manslaughter.
        Is that even possible? I thought manslaughter was when you didn't mean to kill someone. If it's attempted, then it's murder.

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          #14
          Originally posted by kandr View Post
          Err they get paid, and their mistakes could have killed hundreds, they should be up at court for attempted manslaughter.
          No such thing. Attempt implies intent and Manslaughter is the unplanned killing of another as a result of a related action. E.g. Someone gets punched, falls over, and dies as a result of their head hitting the kerb. It's manslaughter as there was no intent to kill, but the death was a direct result of the original punch. If the offender had attacked the victim with the intent to kill then it would be murder.

          In this case the charge would most likely be Gross Negligence Manslaughter ( also known as Corporate Manslaughter) where death is alleged to have been caused by the negligence of the corporate body concerned. It's incredibly hard to prove, as shown in the case of the Potters Bar rail disaster. Charges of Gross Negligence Manslaughter against Railtrack and it's contractors have just been dropped and replaced by charges under H&S legislation instead.

          Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
          The media coverage this one has been given you'd think it's doom of epic proportions. Engines fail all the time from all manufactures, changes are you've been on a plane with a failure and never knew about it.

          GEC I reckon have around 20 - 30 engine in flight shut downs everyday.
          But most of them don't blow panels off the engine and holes in the wing. Un-contained failures like this are far more unusual.
          "Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.

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            #15
            Originally posted by DaveB View Post
            No such thing. Attempt implies intent and Manslaughter is the unplanned killing of another as a result of a related action. E.g. Someone gets punched, falls over, and dies as a result of their head hitting the kerb. It's manslaughter as there was no intent to kill, but the death was a direct result of the original punch. If the offender had attacked the victim with the intent to kill then it would be murder.

            In this case the charge would most likely be Gross Negligence Manslaughter ( also known as Corporate Manslaughter) where death is alleged to have been caused by the negligence of the corporate body concerned. It's incredibly hard to prove, as shown in the case of the Potters Bar rail disaster. Charges of Gross Negligence Manslaughter against Railtrack and it's contractors have just been dropped and replaced by charges under H&S legislation instead.



            But most of them don't blow panels off the engine and holes in the wing. Un-contained failures like this are far more unusual.
            WHS, but in more words and better explained than I did

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              #16
              Originally posted by DaveB View Post
              No such thing. Attempt implies intent and Manslaughter is the unplanned killing of another as a result of a related action. E.g. Someone gets punched, falls over, and dies as a result of their head hitting the kerb. It's manslaughter as there was no intent to kill, but the death was a direct result of the original punch. If the offender had attacked the victim with the intent to kill then it would be murder.

              In this case the charge would most likely be Gross Negligence Manslaughter ( also known as Corporate Manslaughter) where death is alleged to have been caused by the negligence of the corporate body concerned. It's incredibly hard to prove, as shown in the case of the Potters Bar rail disaster. Charges of Gross Negligence Manslaughter against Railtrack and it's contractors have just been dropped and replaced by charges under H&S legislation instead.



              But most of them don't blow panels off the engine and holes in the wing. Un-contained failures like this are far more unusual.
              Everyones a smartass when theve had 10 mins to google.

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                #17
                Originally posted by kandr View Post
                Everyones a smartass when theve had 10 mins to google.

                Studying Law.

                ftfy.
                "Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by DaveB View Post

                  Studying Law.

                  ftfy.
                  That as well

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
                    They don't ground their entire fleet though, or leave holes in their aircarft.
                    Wanna bet! The sheet companies do to stop that kind of news getting out you'd would believe. Bet then it's up to the operators not the engine manufactures.
                    "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by zeitghost
                      "The engines cannae take it Cap'n, they're gonna blow!".
                      Cry havoc and slip loose the dogs of war!

                      Ooops sorry - wrong login

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