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    #41
    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    While I am happy to remember with pride conscripted soldiers who have fallen and will wear the poppy for that I will not give money to the legion to support career soldiers or their families at this point. You make your choice and if you are injured in the front line you got yourself there by choice and knew the risks.
    And that is your personal choice.

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      #42
      Originally posted by SupremeSpod View Post
      Considered unsympathetic by whom?
      Mmm. I've got a mental image of an old soldier in a public toilets, outside a stall door, wearing a poppy, tapping his foot and tutting now.
      What happens in General, stays in General.
      You know what they say about assumptions!

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        #43
        Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
        I think knocking one out in the toilets would be considered a little unsympathetic though.
        Originally posted by SupremeSpod View Post
        Considered unsympathetic by whom?
        The person sitting on the bog having a peaceful dump.
        And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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          #44
          Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
          Mmm. I've got a mental image of an old soldier in a public toilets, outside a stall door, wearing a poppy, tapping his foot and tutting now.
          Your post speaks volumes in its stupidity and lack of sensitivity.

          Just that little step too far, eh MF?

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            #45
            Originally posted by SupremeSpod View Post
            And that is your personal choice.
            FFS, what if I walk about in a Nazi uniform during it, is that my personal choice?

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              #46
              Originally posted by SupremeSpod View Post
              Your two minutes of your own silence is your own mark of respect. Other people are completely free to do as they wish.

              I think you may have misunderstood my original post.
              I hope I didn't misunderstand you, & don't think I did. Of course it's a personal tribute & a personal choice. Mainly I'm interested in two strands in particular.
              One is the practicality. It takes more than just the one person to create a silence in which to do any meaningful remembrance.

              The second one is slightly more to do with moral intentions. In the early days (1920s-30s I'm thinking of) there was a lot of patriotism and politics attached to the poppy movement, and if you didn't like that aspect you had to make a stand of your own - wear a white poppy, or join the Moral Rearmament movement like a couple of my ex-WW1 veteran relatives did. But nowadays I think "poppy day" embraces the peace movement too, and I don't think there are many people who could reasonably put a case against joining in the 2 minute silence, even though of course they've got a freedom not to.

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                #47
                Originally posted by SupremeSpod View Post
                Your post speaks volumes in its stupidity and lack of sensitivity.
                All of your posts fall into the same category Spod

                HTH
                What happens in General, stays in General.
                You know what they say about assumptions!

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by kandr View Post
                  FFS, what if I walk about in a Nazi uniform during it, is that my personal choice?
                  Obviously it is, if nobody's stopped you yet.
                  And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by kandr View Post
                    FFS, what if I walk about in a Nazi uniform during it, is that my personal choice?
                    What I do with 5 call girls, a bag of charlie and a nazi uniform is my personal choice.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by thunderlizard View Post
                      I hope I didn't misunderstand you, & don't think I did. Of course it's a personal tribute & a personal choice. Mainly I'm interested in two strands in particular.
                      One is the practicality. It takes more than just the one person to create a silence in which to do any meaningful remembrance.

                      The second one is slightly more to do with moral intentions. In the early days (1920s-30s I'm thinking of) there was a lot of patriotism and politics attached to the poppy movement, and if you didn't like that aspect you had to make a stand of your own - wear a white poppy, or join the Moral Rearmament movement like a couple of my ex-WW1 veteran relatives did. But nowadays I think "poppy day" embraces the peace movement too, and I don't think there are many people who could reasonably put a case against joining in the 2 minute silence, even though of course they've got a freedom not to.
                      A good point, well made. With regards to the silence, it's great if everyone observes it and imo it does add to the experience. However if you do your "bit" then that's all that matters, it's not for me to tut about others or police the silence.

                      My thoughts regarding the 2 minutes silence are that I'm making a gesture of respect and remembering the fallen on all sides.

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