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Forcing "scroungers" to take work

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    #11
    Originally posted by MrMark View Post
    You're missing a pertinent point. There are no jobs, even for some talented, diligent folk out there who are looking for a job. No company in the market-place is going to set on someone with no work record and few skills who clearly has no intention of working.
    Also - "creating" the jobs you list won't happen. The Government won't do this as it rightly knows it takes a lot of supervision and bureaucracy, and hence money.
    how are they going to do it with the prisoners then?
    "Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon Musk

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      #12
      Originally posted by Jog On View Post
      WHS - if they can find work for prisoners to do they can put Johnny to work as well.
      Prisoners have a large number of prison officers to organise them and supervise work etc (is it something like one prison officer per 3 prisoners). Are you suggesting the government hire 100,000s of supervisors, just to make sure Johhny Chav is seen as earning his benefits?
      Speaking gibberish on internet talkboards since last Michaelmas. Plus here on Twitter

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        #13
        Originally posted by Jog On View Post
        how are they going to do it with the prisoners then?
        Prison Warders. Be interesting to find out how much prisons costs already. Isn't it something like £65k per prisoner?
        Edit. according to this it's around 31k per prisoner on average

        http://www.sps.gov.uk/default.aspx?d...0-0EE5A87924BD
        Last edited by MrMark; 13 October 2010, 12:01.
        Speaking gibberish on internet talkboards since last Michaelmas. Plus here on Twitter

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          #14
          Originally posted by MrMark View Post
          You're missing a pertinent point. There are no jobs, even for some talented, diligent folk out there who are looking for a job.
          There are not many jobs for people who want to earn £30-50k+, but there are plenty of jobs that can be created for minimum wage considering that would do useful work, keep them occupied and since the money are paid in benefits the actual cost of such work is not high.

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            #15
            Originally posted by MrMark View Post
            Prisoners have a large number of prison officers to organise them and supervise work etc (is it something like one prison officer per 3 prisoners).
            Replace those with 10-20 automated remote-controlled machine guns.

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              #16
              Originally posted by MrMark View Post
              Prisoners have a large number of prison officers to organise them and supervise work etc (is it something like one prison officer per 3 prisoners). Are you suggesting the government hire 100,000s of supervisors, just to make sure Johhny Chav is seen as earning his benefits?
              When I emailed my idea of using cloud computing and cloud labour to get people doing work, getting experience and refrences I got a reply back saying that the dept of work have a budget of several billion for initiatives to get people back into work.

              At the end of the day - there's a ton of grunt work about the country that needs doing and an abundance of people available to do it.

              Whether the government put the 2 together remains to be seen.

              work for your giro seems fair enough to me.

              What do you suggest they do MrMark? What's your alternative solution?
              "Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon Musk

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                #17
                FAO MrMark.

                I'm sure that you will agree that the current situation is unsustainable.

                What do you suggest?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by AtW View Post
                  Replace those with 10-20 automated remote-controlled machine guns.
                  Erm, yes, thankyou for that suggestion, but it's a prison they're trying to secure, not a small, peaceful and basically innocent Eastern European country.
                  And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                    #19
                    How much is jobseekers vs min wage?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by AtW View Post
                      Replace those with 10-20 automated remote-controlled machine guns.
                      SKA-controlled

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