Blaze of Glory

[sasguru]

It's interesting how quickly supposedly civilised people turn into wannabe vigilantes and animal-rights-terrorist-sympathisers when they don't get to eat the animal. Where's the thread on battery-farming? Seriously, that's terribly cruel and affects millions of animals simply for our entertainment... cheap meat is entertainment not subsistence.

What part of "unnecessary and gratuitous" don't you understand?
FWIW I only buy free range meat. It tastes much better for a start, so its a win-win.

[Spacecadet]

Cats have a natural instinct to play with their prey because it's the only way they can make a kill without risking injury.

As a responsible parent, I would hope to explain to my son that animals do not exist for humans to torture.

er... no
They do it cause it's fun

My cat will catch something (usually mice) and then carry it in his mouth to the front lawn and then proceed to play with it.
At any point he could kill the poor thing by simply squeezing his jaws closed a bit more.

[AtW]

FWIW I only buy free range meat. It tastes much better for a start, so its a win-win.

No for the poor animal it ain't - it's even worse really

[MaryPoppins]

It's interesting how quickly supposedly civilised people turn into wannabe vigilantes and animal-rights-terrorist-sympathisers when they don't get to eat the animal. Where's the thread on battery-farming? Seriously, that's terribly cruel and affects millions of animals simply for our entertainment... cheap meat is entertainment not subsistence.

I think you may mean sustenance?

I believe we did have a thread on battery farming, too. I simply cannot be arsed to find and link to it.

I think most of us would agree that battery farming is abhorrent, and luckily, most of us are also hopefully in a position, if meat eaters, to afford to buy meat that has been farmed more responsibly.

If we choose to.

And then not to bleat (pardon the pun) on about it.

[sasguru]

No for the poor animal it ain't - it's even worse really

How so, moron?

[doodab]

WSS. Doodab you're really coming out with a load of undergraduate cock, which I find disappointing given your sometimes intelligent posts.

You're too kind

I haven't actually "come out" with anything. I asked Craphead a question. It's not my fault if he's gone off on a foul mouthed rant.

My own point of view lies somewhere between MP & d000hgs i.e. I think it's good to teach children that it's wrong to torture animals, and wrong to cause animals suffering in the name of entertainment, but I don't have a very good argument as to why it's wrong, and I don't think that killing people is an appropriate punishment.

[MaryPoppins]

er... no
They do it cause it's fun

My cat will catch something (usually mice) and then carry it in his mouth to the front lawn and then proceed to play with it.
At any point he could kill the poor thing by simply squeezing his jaws closed a bit more.

I believe that the reason cats 'play' with prey goes back to killing for food type instincts.

[sasguru]

.. and I don't think that killing people is an appropriate punishment.

I don't think anyone was advocating that. It's just that if the animal sometimes gets its own back on the morons who've gone to see it suffer, some of us feel justice has been served.

[MaryPoppins]

but I don't have a very good argument as to why it's wrong

That's a bit worrying.

[doodab]

I believe that the reason cats 'play' with prey goes back to killing for food type instincts.

I think the "playing" aspect is similar to the reason children play, i.e. to learn and practice things.

When I was younger I lived in a house with a cat and a kitten and the cat would often bring small rabbits and things home for the kitten to "play" with (i.e. learn to chase and kill)