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    Originally posted by ArthurBigot View Post
    In my world there are two main islands off the coast of mainland Europe, one can accept that it is divided into three nations (actually two + one principality) while the other could not accept a two nation island

    And explain why the settlement of 1922 wasn't just
    No democratic mandate. Simples. The overwhelming majority of the Irish populace wanted their independence, with only a minority in Ulster being against. The 6-county state was foisted upon the majority by the Government in Westminster essentially. Hardly democratic, that is what made it unjust. You should try reading up on it rather than just opening your cakehole and letting your stomach rumble.
    “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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      Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
      You should try reading up on it rather than just opening your cakehole and letting your stomach rumble.

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        Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
        No democratic mandate. Simples. The overwhelming majority of the Irish populace wanted their independence, with only a minority in Ulster being against. The 6-county state was foisted upon the majority by the Government in Westminster essentially. Hardly democratic, that is what made it unjust. You should try reading up on it rather than just opening your cakehole and letting your stomach rumble.
        If you mean the 1921 Anglo Irish Treaty then that was ratified by the Dáil Éireann is that the democratic mandate you speak of?

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          Originally posted by wobbegong View Post
          "ArthurBigot"; some of us remember CC.NET you know.

          Arthur doesn't strike me as a typical fan of CC.NET

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            Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
            No democratic mandate. Simples. The overwhelming majority of the Irish populace wanted their independence, with only a minority in Ulster being against. The 6-county state was foisted upon the majority by the Government in Westminster essentially. Hardly democratic, that is what made it unjust. You should try reading up on it rather than just opening your cakehole and letting your stomach rumble.
            Actaully in 1914 England tried to enforce home rule on the whole of Ireland and Ulstermen tried to prevent it and actually imported 9000 rifles from Germany. The outbreak of WWI prevented what would have becaome a civil war and because so many Ulstermen died in the trenches the English felt obliged to let them remain in the UK as they had split lots of blood defending her.

            It was a reluctant solution and not the one England wanted.
            But I discovered nothing else but depraved, excessive superstition. Pliny the younger

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              Nice to see a thread about a terrible natural catastrophe in a region full of people already stricken by poverty degenerating into a load of bitching and whining by a bunch of loudmouths who are so well off that they can afford to argue about political tulip that happened before their own parents were born and act like it's important

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                Originally posted by NickFitz View Post
                Nice to see a thread about a terrible natural catastrophe in a region full of people already stricken by poverty degenerating into a load of bitching and whining by a bunch of loudmouths who are so well off that they can afford to argue about political tulip that happened before their own parents were born and act like it's important
                Well actually it is important and relevant today, just not to this thread. The recent activity by dissident republicans is inextricably linked to the events 90 years ago and the unsatisfactory solutions worked out.

                Me, I'm sick to the back teeth of being emotionally blackmailed by the media and wannbe Geldofs trying to tell me how lucky I am.
                But I discovered nothing else but depraved, excessive superstition. Pliny the younger

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                  Originally posted by NickFitz View Post
                  Nice to see a thread about a terrible natural catastrophe in a region full of people already stricken by poverty degenerating into a load of bitching and whining by a bunch of loudmouths who are so well off that they can afford to argue about political tulip that happened before their own parents were born and act like it's important
                  You could always just bypass the thread if you don't like it. It is not as if your input is likely to be relevant or wanted anyway. Try and play to your strengths and stick to nerdy threads. Better still, spend more time over on mumsnet with all the other big girls.
                  “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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                    Originally posted by NickFitz View Post
                    Nice to see a thread about a terrible natural catastrophe in a region full of people already stricken by poverty degenerating into a load of bitching and whining by a bunch of loudmouths who are so well off that they can afford to argue about political tulip that happened before their own parents were born and act like it's important
                    You're on the bench, you go and help them.

                    I tell you what, your prejudices are thinly veiled indeed.

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                      "I agree with Nick"(tm)
                      McCoy: "Medical men are trained in logic."
                      Spock: "Trained? Judging from you, I would have guessed it was trial and error."

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