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4 out of 5 new jobs go to foreigners

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    #11
    It won't be long before basic IT skills are the equivalent of reading and writing and most IT jobs are minimum wage.
    While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'

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      #12
      Originally posted by doodab View Post
      It won't be long before basic IT skills are the equivalent of reading and writing
      They already are. Have you ever tried reading an application letter written by someone who hasn't been to university/poly?
      And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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        #13
        Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
        They already are. Have you ever tried reading an application letter written by someone who hasn't been to university/poly?
        Most school leavers don't even have a basic understanding of spelling or grammar.

        It's amazing how they manage to fill in the dole forms.
        "Ask not what you can do for your country. Ask what's for lunch." - Orson Welles

        Norrahe's blog

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          #14
          Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
          They already are. Have you ever tried reading an application letter written by someone who hasn't been to university/poly?
          Thats a bit elitist Mich, I never went to university/poly as I chose to go straight into an aerospace apprenticeship.

          Do you find my grammar/spelling to be of a low standard?
          Science isn't about why, it's about why not. You ask: why is so much of our science dangerous? I say: why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because you are fired. - Cave Johnson

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            #15
            Originally posted by norrahe View Post
            Most school leavers don't even have a basic understanding of spelling or grammar.

            It's amazing how they manage to fill in the dole forms.
            their mams do it innit
            Coffee's for closers

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              #16
              Originally posted by gingerjedi View Post
              Thats a bit elitist Mich, I never went to university/poly as I chose to go straight into an aerospace apprenticeship.

              Do you find my grammar/spelling to be of a low standard?
              Sorry, no offence intended, but I'd say that an aerospace apprenticeship is vocational training to a very high standard, as is armed forces officer or specialist training. My point is really that too many people don't have the basic skills to get by in a modern economy, but then blame employers for hiring foreigners who do have the skills.
              And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                #17
                Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
                If there are people who´ll do the job for 25K, how can the ´going rate´ be 50K?
                Muppet.
                Vote Corbyn ! Save this country !

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by fullyautomatix View Post
                  Muppet.
                  How?

                  If there are various suppliers of service, and each service is equal in quality, then the job will go to that with the lowest price. You can maintain that the market price of chips is 5 pounds per bag, but as soon as your competitor offers them for 1 pound per bag, the market price for chips goes down to 1 pound.

                  It's harsh, but it's economics.
                  And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by gingerjedi View Post
                    Thats a bit elitist Mich, I never went to university/poly as I chose to go straight into an aerospace apprenticeship.

                    Do you find my grammar/spelling to be of a low standard?
                    A lot of people in my industry have gone straight from school to work, as long as someone can do a job, often a degree level education is irrelevant if you have the right person. Unless it's the kind of job you actually need said education e.g. medicine for one example.
                    "Ask not what you can do for your country. Ask what's for lunch." - Orson Welles

                    Norrahe's blog

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
                      Sorry, no offence intended, but I'd say that an aerospace apprenticeship is vocational training to a very high standard, as is armed forces officer or specialist training. My point is really that too many people don't have the basic skills to get by in a modern economy, but then blame employers for hiring foreigners who do have the skills.
                      You can also blame employers for insisting on a degree (any) over a technical apprenticeship.

                      In some cases I wouldn't get over the first HR hurdle where someone with a degree in Christmas would.
                      Science isn't about why, it's about why not. You ask: why is so much of our science dangerous? I say: why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because you are fired. - Cave Johnson

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